Sunday, October 27, 2013

So how amazing was Morning Musume in their prime? Were they bigger than AKB now?


1: ドラゴンスリーパー(やわらか銀行) 2013/10/21(月) 19:10:38.62 ID:00ned4EJP
http://livedoor.4.blogimg.jp/nwknews/imgs/7/8/781a5af8.jpg


4: バックドロップ(内モンゴル自治区) 2013/10/21(月) 19:13:14.21 ID:ItYzrR6fO
興味ないパンピーも着メロにしてたとか
Even the general public who weren't even interested in them used their songs as their ringtones
6: 足4の字固め(東日本) 2013/10/21(月) 19:13:22.45 ID:QlYnjRX3P
たぶん今よりみんなテレビ観てたしな
A lot more people probably watched TV then compared to now
8: リバースパワースラム(群馬県) 2013/10/21(月) 19:13:59.10 ID:S9MjrjKI0
ミリオン出しちゃうくらい
So popular that they came out with million-sellers
9: デンジャラスバックドロップ(チベット自治区) 2013/10/21(月) 19:14:19.79 ID:0LlyrMHh0
そんな人気なかったような
I don't think they were actually that popular at all
10: トペ スイシーダ(熊本県) 2013/10/21(月) 19:14:24.44 ID:j8EwFPYY0
っていうかAKBって未だにキモヲタにしか人気ないじゃん
モー娘はあれでも一応は世間一般に認知されるぐらいにはがんばってた

歌も多少はマシなのもあったしな
Isn't AKB just popular with the kimo-wotas up to now?
MoMusu worked hard to at least become household names back then.

They even had quite a few pretty decent songs.
17: エルボードロップ(関東・甲信越) 2013/10/21(月) 19:17:03.81 ID:E6l4vIWPO
>>10
ミニモニ。とかハロプロが完全ヲタ向け戦略だったこと知らないのか

今のAKBなんて比じゃないレベルのヲタ向けだったのに
Don't you know that MiniMoni was a strategy devised by Hello!Pro targeted specifically towards the wotas?
That was entirely for wotas, much, much more so than AKB.
116: ウエスタンラリアット(庭) 2013/10/21(月) 20:04:16.74 ID:RxnFGUf10
>>10
お前は取り敢えず家から出ろ
You should at least step out of your house first
12: 男色ドライバー(関東・甲信越) 2013/10/21(月) 19:14:27.61 ID:JrE4Y56v0
モーニングコーヒーの頃が絶頂
あとはワケわからんようになった
おじさんのなかではな
They peaked with "Morning Coffee".
And then they didn't make any sense at all afterwards.
Well, at least for me, an old man.

http://i.imgur.com/eJlQ3PH.jpg

14: スリーパーホールド(SB-iPhone) 2013/10/21(月) 19:15:49.07 ID:rs7hStJIi
シングルどっちが売れてるの?
Who has better singles sales?
19: ラダームーンサルト(東京都) 2013/10/21(月) 19:17:08.57 ID:gpirvgdW0
>>14
AKB
15: リキラリアット(SB-iPhone) 2013/10/21(月) 19:16:34.35 ID:wIvBy79qi
どっちのファンでもないがモー娘の方が歌が耳に残ってる
I'm not a fan of either of the groups, but Morning Musume's songs have lasted longer in my ears
20: フェイスクラッシャー(内モンゴル自治区) 2013/10/21(月) 19:17:26.94 ID:nTD6bCsbO
AKBは極一部のキモにしか好かれてないが、モームスはわりと幅広い一般人にも好かれてたな
AKB seems like it's just liked by an extremely small portion of gross guys, but Morning Musume was more widely accepted by the public
40: 栓抜き攻撃(愛知県) 2013/10/21(月) 19:24:05.56 ID:boCuhl6X0
>>20
そうでもなかった
お前がモー娘が流行ってた頃に学生くらいでそのブームの真っ只中にいたからそう思えるだけで

当時、今のお前の立場にいたおっさん共はモー娘に対して、今のAKBに対するお前の意見と全く同じ意見を持ってた
That's not entirely true.
You just think that way probably because you were still in school back when Morning Musume were hugely popular.
I'm sure that the feeling you're holding towards AKB now is exactly how the older guys at that time felt towards Morning Musume.
21: 稲妻レッグラリアット(神奈川県) 2013/10/21(月) 19:17:37.25 ID:9EE2EnrH0
男より女に人気があったな
クラスに1人は追加メンバーオーディション受けた奴が居た
It seemed like they were more popular with the girls rather than the boys.
There was at least 1 girl in every class who went to the additional member auditions back then.
23: ブラディサンデー(やわらか銀行) 2013/10/21(月) 19:18:56.77 ID:mH6QZqv+0
握手権なしでミリオン
They sold millions without handshake passes
28: ビッグブーツ(茸) 2013/10/21(月) 19:20:23.51 ID:ZMGEcR7O0
モーニング娘。はメンバー全員の顔と名前が一致するが、AKBはせいぜい15%ぐらいしか一致しない。
それぐらい圧倒的な差がある。
I can match the names with the faces of each Morning Musume member in my head, but I can only do that for about 15% of the AKB members. That's the overwhelming difference for me.
30: エクスプロイダー(庭) 2013/10/21(月) 19:21:19.21 ID:2FWbk6/D0
なんだかんだ言ってAKBは凄いよ。いまどきミリオンばんばん出すんだもん。
売り方はアコギでもやっぱり実績上げてるからな。
個人的にはPerfumeが好きだが…
But whatever people may say, AKB's still amazing for releasing all these million-sellers one after another.
Their business model may be evil and selfish, but they still produced the results.
Though I personally prefer Perfume... 
35: トペ スイシーダ(熊本県) 2013/10/21(月) 19:23:03.48 ID:j8EwFPYY0
>>30
ミリオンつっても買ってる人数は10万人ぐらいだろ?
But when you say million, that's just about 100,000 people, right?
33: 垂直落下式DDT(青森県) 2013/10/21(月) 19:21:52.57 ID:4LwvIFu40
ゴマキが登場したときは衝撃受けた
I was literally shocked when GoMaki made her appearance for the first time

http://yaplog.jp/cv/nakailove/img/82/img20070923_2_p.jpg
34: トラースキック(徳島県) 2013/10/21(月) 19:22:23.25 ID:wSk2/s8k0
全盛期のモーニング娘。が握手会やったら機動隊が出動するレベル
If Morning Musume held a handshake event in their prime, it would have been on a level where they would have needed to deploy the riot police
42: メンマ(SB-iPhone) 2013/10/21(月) 19:25:00.16 ID:PDMn76+o0
前田敦子いなくなってからはどっこいくらいかな
They became equal when Atsuko Maeda left
49: 河津落とし(芋) 2013/10/21(月) 19:28:52.35 ID:7x2ndW3K0
自分が10代、20代で若かった頃を美化したいのと、とにかくAKBが嫌いというのが合わさって過大評価されてるけど、普通におっさんがモー娘好きだとか言ったらキチガイ扱いだったよ。
I think Morning Musume are being overrated jointly by...
- People who want to glorify their youth (teens, 20's)
- People who hate AKB
But if you were an old guy and you said that you liked Morning Musume back then, people would have called you crazy.
52: クロイツラス(東日本) 2013/10/21(月) 19:31:16.77 ID:Oy//cxyZO
娘。ピーク時に握手券つけてたらAKBの何倍もすごかったんじゃねえの
Maybe Musume would have been many times more popular than AKB if they threw handshake passes into their CDs during their prime 
55: ブラディサンデー(大阪府) 2013/10/21(月) 19:33:21.85 ID:VTzn1DHx0
AKBになっちの全盛期を超える奴は存在しない
There's no one in AKB who could surpass Nacchi during her prime
http://kzy.kt.fc2.com/home/natsu_dai_sh2.jpg
63: 河津落とし(芋) 2013/10/21(月) 19:35:58.71 ID:7x2ndW3K0
今、ピンクレディーを語る人たちって、ピンクレディー全盛期に子供(20代前半なんかも含めてね)であって、「当時の大人がピンクレディーをどう見ていたか」なんてほとんど資料残らないんだよ。

昔のアイドルの美化現象なんてほぼこれ。
People who talk about Pink Lady these days were kids (including people around their 20s) during Pink Lady's peak, and we have almost no more references and materials which would prove what the adults back then thought about Pink Lady.
This is mostly the case why our former idols are all being idealized.

http://blog-imgs-49.fc2.com/g/o/l/goldenage1970/PinkLady03.jpg
67: メンマ(西日本) 2013/10/21(月) 19:36:38.01 ID:xyDDjKOm0
今のパヒュームくらい
They're like what Perfume is now
85: サソリ固め(庭) 2013/10/21(月) 19:42:34.70 ID:B/4kWdo/0
>>67
Perfumeといっしょにして欲しくないな。
Perfumeのほうが踊りも歌も完成されてるよ。

人気はモー娘のほうがあったけど
I don't want you dragging Perfume into this.
Perfume's dancing and singing are much more skillful and refined.

Morning Musume was more popular, though
68: メンマ(庭) 2013/10/21(月) 19:37:00.06 ID:eLw50MgA0
忘年会でラブマシーンとかやってただろ
People used to sing "Love Machine" a lot at year-end parties, right?




71: ドラゴンスリーパー(大阪府) 2013/10/21(月) 19:37:27.11 ID:drBUkvs5P
全員名前を言えるのが普通という意味ではAKBより上だな
Just in the sense that I could recite all their names means they're better than AKB
119: パロスペシャル(庭) 2013/10/21(月) 20:05:59.69 ID:F2RX5rYK0
>>71
人数が違うじゃん
モー娘。って50人以上メンバーいたの?
But there's a huge difference in number there.
Did Morning Musume have 50 members?
74: マスク剥ぎ(大阪府) 2013/10/21(月) 19:38:32.65 ID:bKq7q/BZ0
ピーク時はCDが結構売れたみたいだがやっぱり熱狂するのはキモオタどもで、人気という面では今のAKBの方が老若男女に受け入れられてるだろ

握手会とかは家族連れも行くみたいだし
They did seem to sell quite a few during their peak, but the frantic ones are still the kimo-wotas. If it's just popularity, I think AKB is more widely accepted now by both men and women of all ages.
It even seems like there are cases where an entire family would go to their handshake events.
77: 河津落とし(芋) 2013/10/21(月) 19:39:54.73 ID:7x2ndW3K0
たかだか10年やそこいらの過去ですら、ここまで美化されるんだからノスタルジーってのはすごい
It's only been 10 years or so, but if they're being glorified this much, then that means the power of nostalgia is amazing
83: トペ コンヒーロ(静岡県) 2013/10/21(月) 19:41:54.26 ID:J5UIsHzJ0
全盛期のモー娘>>>全盛期のAKB>>>今のAKB>>>>>>>>>>>>今のモー娘
MoMusu in their prime >>> AKB in their prime >>> The current AKB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The current MoMusu
 
84: 断崖式ニードロップ(埼玉県) 2013/10/21(月) 19:42:06.79 ID:RADiZ6Fl0
親が名前を言えた
Even my parents knew all their names
http://img.hmv.co.jp/image/jacket/400/54/7/6/237.jpg
86: キドクラッチ(山口県) 2013/10/21(月) 19:43:02.62 ID:akrhA/770
うたばん面白かった、亀井可愛かった、七夕ツアー面白かった
Utaban was good, Kamei was cute, the Tanabata tour was good
87: エクスプロイダー(東京都) 2013/10/21(月) 19:43:03.62 ID:9XLBLGDR0
akbはオタクが百枚千枚単位でCD買ってるけど
昔はそういう概念がなかったからモームスの方がすごいと思うが
AKB's otakus buy CDs by the hundreds or the thousands, but that concept wasn't around back in the day so I think MoMusu was bigger
90: マスク剥ぎ(大阪府) 2013/10/21(月) 19:46:01.08 ID:bKq7q/BZ0
>>87
昔はオタじゃなくても少し曲が流行っただけで周りに合わせてCDを買う時代だったから単純にCD売上だけでは人気は測れない
But everyone was much more easily influenced by the people around them before even if they weren't otakus, so you really can't measure the success just with CD sales
93: フェイスロック(石川県) 2013/10/21(月) 19:46:05.21 ID:ZKbJzMw60
吉本と電通切ってアップフロントだけやって行くいった途端凋落
The moment they cut ties with Yoshimoto and Dentsu, and just went with Up-front, they started falling
99: 張り手(芋) 2013/10/21(月) 19:50:41.73 ID:/PIAzsjp0
どっちもどっちだと思うが
結果はAKBの方がだしてるから
AKBの勝ちなんじゃないかな
まぁ後発は色々有利だけど
Same difference I guess, but I think it's AKB's win because they have produced better results.
Then again, coming after someone else has a lot of advantages as well.
107: 毒霧(山梨県) 2013/10/21(月) 19:55:18.91 ID:k/nBBTLn0
どれぐらいすごかったか。
・学校の行事や会社の宴会とかの出し物の定番。
・当時の結婚式で一番使われる曲。
・モー娘。のオーディションの競争率が異常。
・Atokでもちゃんと「モーニング娘。」と変換できる。
・ストリップで使われる歌謡曲で長年トップを維持。
How amazing they were:
- Their songs and dances were staples during school and office events or parties.
- Their song was used the most in wedding ceremonies back then.
- The competition during MoMusu auditions was fierce.
- You can even change the characters to モーニング娘。 even on Atok
- Their songs were consistently at the top for a long time at strip joints.
109: ドラゴンスリーパー(WiMAX) 2013/10/21(月) 19:57:21.58 ID:Qcwg4V1YP
>>107
あの当時携帯業界では「モー娘。」を一発変換出来るのが凄い変換ソフトみたいな風潮あったな
There was also a trend back then in the cellphone world that if you can easily change what you're typing to MoMusuモー娘*, then it's considered to have an amazing software

* (something like "MoMusu" or "Morning Musume" appearing as one of the suggestions when you turn on predictive input)
110: ジャーマンスープレックス(茸) 2013/10/21(月) 19:58:56.93 ID:yD+yQaH+0
>>107
ストリップの件はどうやって調べたの?w
How did you find out about the strip joint? LOL
113: ジャンピングパワーボム(dion軍) 2013/10/21(月) 20:00:32.67 ID:1Di5tORt0
全盛期のモー娘。は全国の万人規模のホールを満員にしてたけどAKBじゃ無理だと思う
Morning Musume in their prime would have been able to fill the halls that can hold 10s of thousands all over Japan, but I don't think that's possible with AKB
120: タイガードライバー(中部地方) 2013/10/21(月) 20:06:25.84 ID:U9ym4cPh0
SPEEDみたいなガチで評価されてたグループに比べれば全盛期でもネタ扱いだっただろ

今のAKBとそうかわらん
But Musume were still considered as novelties even during their prime, unlike SPEED who were seriously recognized for their talent.
They're not that different from AKB now.

http://onionixp.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/speed01.jpg
125: 32文ロケット砲(家) 2013/10/21(月) 20:11:36.54 ID:3lWSTSVY0
AKBと違って少なくとも歌って踊れてた
At least they were able to sing and dance, unlike AKB
127: ファイヤーボールスプラッシュ(家) 2013/10/21(月) 20:12:03.28 ID:/HRj5+DF0
なんとなくだけど
モー娘は歌手になりたい子の集まり
対してAKBはただ有名になりたい子の集まりって感じだな
This is just an impression, 
but MoMusu felt like a bunch of girls who wanted to become singers.
AKB on the other hand feels like a bunch of girls who just want to become popular.
133: 逆落とし(愛知県) 2013/10/21(月) 20:20:07.36 ID:orp3nfWR0
CDシングル売り上げ推移(2007年まで)
CD single sales chart (up to 2007)
『全盛期のモーニング娘。って実際どんくらい凄かったの?さすがにAKB48の全盛期よりは下だろうが…』の画像M5
http://up.pandoravote.net/up4/img/panflash00075429.jpg

(From Wikipedia)

1 "Morning Coffee" 200,790
2 "Summer Night Town" 417,330
3 "Daite Hold on Me!" 497,120
4 "Memory Seishun no Hikari" 410,850
5 "Manatsu no Kōsen" 235,010
6 "Furusato" 170,670
7 "Love Machine" 1,646,630
8 "Koi no Dance Site" 1,229,970
9 "Happy Summer Wedding" 990,950
10 "I Wish" 654,640
11 "Ren'ai Revolution 21" 986,040
12 "The Peace!" 682,320
13 "Mr. Moonlight (Ai no Big Band)" 513,340
14 "Sōda! We're Alive" 443,630
15 "Do It! Now" 312,523
16 "Koko ni Iruzee!" 228,542
17 "Morning Musume no Hyokkori Hyōtanjima" 151,342
18 "As for One Day" 129,893
19 "Shabondama" 151,104
20 "Go Girl (Koi no Victory)" 145,340
21 "Ai Araba It's All Right" 108,368
22 "Roman (My Dear Boy)" 87,255
23 "Joshi Kashimashi Monogatari" 91,789
24 "Namida ga Tomaranai Hōkago" 65,873
25 "The Manpower!!!" 67,860
26 "Osaka Koi no Uta" 59,287
27 "Iroppoi Jirettai" 82,200
28 "Chokkan 2 " 54,428
29 "Sexy Boy (Soyokaze ni Yorisotte)" 48,667
30 "Ambitious! Yashinteki de Ii Jan" 47,159
31 "Aruiteru" 55,694
32 "Egao Yes Nude" 53,047
33 "Kanashimi Twilight" 61,322
34 "Onna ni Sachi Are" 50,812
35 "Mikan" 38,667
136: ドラゴンスリーパー(芋) 2013/10/21(月) 20:23:25.23 ID:obi6XlU+P
矢口も結構良い仕事してたよな
うまくバランスとれてた黄金期はすごかった
Even Yaguchi did a good job back then.
Their golden era was amazing as they were very well balanced.

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/helloprocv/imgs/9/8/98093234.jpg
141: パロスペシャル(庭) 2013/10/21(月) 20:30:24.18 ID:v/UYkp4B0
どっちも松田聖子には敵わない
Both of these groups don't stand a chance against Seiko Matsuda

http://www.80s.ne.jp/chrono/gallery/img/jacket_seiko_014.jpg
146: 逆落とし(山口県) 2013/10/21(月) 20:34:16.84 ID:X3wfmycO0
ただ曲が流行った感じだな
It just felt to me that their songs became popular
151: バックドロップ(神奈川県) 2013/10/21(月) 20:37:34.88 ID:EWohwDV00
どこの忘年会でもラブマシ−ン大合唱だった
All year-end parties were like this huge chorus of "Love Machine"
160: オリンピック予選スラム(庭) 2013/10/21(月) 20:44:57.20 ID:gYP07sHP0
>>151
ここ最近ならヘビーローテーションだな
Recently, it's "Heavy Rotation"
163: トペ スイシーダ(やわらか銀行) 2013/10/21(月) 20:54:00.93 ID:qnlLV51g0
AKBは人数多すぎて、単体ギャラで見ればモー娘。のほうが上なんじゃね
AKB just have too many members. If you just look at individual salaries, I think MoMusu was paid better.
165: 腕ひしぎ十字固め(西日本) 2013/10/21(月) 20:54:14.11 ID:xy0/OvMZ0
ラブマシーンあたりがピークだったんじゃないかな
They must have peaked during "LOVE Machine"

http://www.officiallyjd.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/20130224_gotoumaki_20.jpg
166: 32文ロケット砲(庭) 2013/10/21(月) 20:56:47.41 ID:hW/BHdF10
同じミリオンでも

モームスは100万人が買った

AKBは実数はせいぜい1/10ぐらいだろ?

圧倒的な差があるわな
Even if they sold millions, 1 million people bought Morning Musume's CD.
For AKB, it must only be around 1/10 of that.
That's an overwhelming difference.
168: エルボーバット(埼玉県) 2013/10/21(月) 21:03:14.87 ID:BeK7hO4T0
全盛期対決

SPEED>>安室>>>>あやや>>モー娘>AKB>MAX

こんな感じ
During each one's peak

SPEED >> Amuro >>>> Ayaya >> MoMusu > AKB > MAX

I think this is how it was.
175: TEKKAMAKI(神奈川県) 2013/10/21(月) 21:14:08.05 ID:U9+DqH530
ラブマシーン、ハッピーサマーウェディングあたりは人気あった
AKBで言うならヘビロテくらい一般認知あった

しかもあの時代はCDが売れてた時代だからライバルも多い中でのダントツ
"LOVE Machine" and "Happy Summer Wedding" were popular.
With AKB, "Heavy Rotation" was the only one that stuck in people's minds.

And CDs were still selling a lot back in the day, so they stood on top even if they had a lot of rivals.



178: 男色ドライバー(SB-iPhone) 2013/10/21(月) 21:16:08.19 ID:X3u8kZfni
>>175
カラオケでヘビロテが歌われた数ぅって
ラブマシーンって数倍なんだけどな
But then "Heavy Rotation" has been sung a few more number of times on karaoke compared to "Love machine"
181: エルボーバット(庭) 2013/10/21(月) 21:19:24.39 ID:9YrH3Jx70
AKBは初動で190万枚以上売れるグループだからな
後にも先にもこんな化物グループ出てこないだろうな
AKB's a group who could sell 1.9 million on their initial release.
I don't think there will ever be another monster group like this in the future.
183: ナガタロックII(大阪府) 2013/10/21(月) 21:22:47.88 ID:IRyNp12l0
モー娘。はあの何でも売れる時代にあのイモくささでピークが2年程度だからな

比較がそもそもAKBとじゃ成立しない

ただの思い出補正
マジレスしとくわ
Morning Musume who felt provincial lasted only 2 years at the top during those times when anything and everything would sell.
AKB shouldn't even be the point of comparison.
People are just hung up in nostalgia.
Sorry for getting serious.
190: ドラゴンスリーパー(チベット自治区) 2013/10/21(月) 21:39:33.55 ID:N1p5q8WaP
>>183
逆説的に言えば、「テレビの力」の象徴だよね
それくらいテレビというものの威光は凄かった
However, you could also say that they symbolized the "strength of TV" back then.
That was how strong TV was back in the day.
206: ジャンピングパワーボム(やわらか銀行) 2013/10/21(月) 21:58:43.87 ID:NaizbQgK0
歌もダンスもAKBよりなマシだったイメージ。
まぁ当時もあんまり興味なかったけど
My impression is that they're much more decent at singing and dancing compared to AKB.
Well, I really didn't give a damn back then as well.
212: 男色ドライバー(東京都) 2013/10/21(月) 22:07:42.97 ID:ZfJCVMoo0
ラブマシーン以降の数曲は国民誰でも知ってるレベルだろ
ラブマ以前の人気も相当なもんだったが
Even some of the songs that came out after "LOVE Machine" were well known to the public. Actually, even the songs before "LOVE Machine" were super popular too.
225: フェイスロック(やわらか銀行) 2013/10/21(月) 23:03:12.49 ID:Qd0KPQ520
テレビの力云々いうけど、じゃあ「モームス。が凄かった!!」というのもテレビが一般に浸透させたイメージではないか?
People talk about the power of TV back then, then doesn't that mean that it was also the strength of TV that helped plant the image that "MoMusu is amazing!!" among the general public?
234: 雪崩式ブレーンバスター(WiMAX) 2013/10/21(月) 23:16:30.44 ID:nnDAIT7R0
2ちゃんの盛り上がりとモーニング娘。は完全にシンクロしてたよね

実況が生まれたのもキタ━━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━━!!!も全部モー娘。で始まったわけだし
The way 2chan grew and surged was completely synchronized with the Morning Musume boom, right?
The live showtime threads, as well as Kita━━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━━!!! all started because of Morning Musume after all.



236: 魔神風車固め(中国・四国) 2013/10/21(月) 23:18:28.26 ID:1UDNgVuLO
AKBは10年以上経っても残る代表曲ってあるんかな?
Does AKB have a song that will remain even after 10 years which can be called their defining song?
240: 稲妻レッグラリアット(庭) 2013/10/21(月) 23:22:20.17 ID:vzyEHMp/0
>>236
ヘビーローテーション
"Heavy Rotation"
244: クロイツラス(福岡県) 2013/10/21(月) 23:31:20.55 ID:HggLO6tS0
この当時のメンバーと、この曲が最高、永久保存版
モーニング娘。『恋愛レボリューション21』
The members at this time, and this song, were the best. This is something that will last forever.
Morning Musume "Renai Revolution 21"

247: かかと落とし(愛知県) 2013/10/21(月) 23:42:01.06 ID:1IracnIv0
AKBもヘビロテだけは残る

問題なのは連発しているミリオン曲が
どれもこれも認知度でヘビロテに遠く及ばないこと
For AKB, "Heavy Rotation" will be passed on for generations to come.
The problem here is that people's awareness level of all these million sellers that they've been coming out with aren't even on the level of "Heavy Rotation". 
250: エクスプロイダー(庭) 2013/10/21(月) 23:46:34.65 ID:ajfCa/Ad0
>>247
すでにファン以外忘れてるような、その曲も
I think even people who aren't their fans have already forgotten about that song
255: ジャーマンスープレックス(庭) 2013/10/22(火) 00:11:51.33 ID:TxXxSIYn0
>>247
ヘビーローテーション以外で知名度高いのって会いたかったとフライングゲットぐらいだからミリオンでなおかつ知名度高いのはフラゲだけなんだよな

AKBはキンタロー。に感謝しないといけないな
I think their well-known songs other than "Heavy Rotation" were "Aitakatta" and "Flying Get", so the latter would fall into the description of a popular million-seller.
AKB should be grateful to Kintaro.
239: レッドインク(家) 2013/10/21(月) 23:22:00.73 ID:vu5hJXgs0
時代がちがうからどっちも凄かったって事でおk
They're from 2 different periods so why can't we just say that both were amazing



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