Wednesday, October 16, 2013

Who would have to go nude now to be able to compare to the impact of Rie Miyazawa's nude picture book?


1: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:46:05.53 0 ID:
なんか売上部数が未だに破られてないみたいだけど
It seems that its sales still hasn't been surpassed yet

Pictures here:


http://img5.blogs.yahoo.co.jp/ybi/1/e6/c1/satomimasamichi/folder/589723/img_589723_18184674_1?1292745558.jpg


2: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:46:18.15 0 ID:
堀北真希
Maki Horikita
4: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:46:31.99 0 ID:
ガッキー
Gakky
7: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:47:15.08 0 ID:
その時代で断トツで人気がある十代の芸能人
今誰?
A teenager who's undeniably the most popular among her peers at this time.
Who would it be now?
89: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:04:59.64 0 ID:
>>7
剛力
Gouriki
14: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:49:25.05 0 ID:
もうちょっと若い時のガッキーだね
Probably Gakky when she was a bit younger

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/sakisms/imgs/7/6/764f5d89.jpg
15: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:49:35.61 0 ID:
この時代に朝刊の一面使ってあんな宣伝できるか
Will you still be able to use the entire front page of the morning papers these days to promote something like that?
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbs1f8dufh1qznuzoo1_500.png
28: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:52:08.63 0 ID:
能年
Nounen

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/aoba_f/imgs/1/1/1125a231.jpg
29: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:52:33.10 0 ID:
明日の新聞開いたら能年ちゃんのヌードの全面広告が載ってるようなもん
It would feel like waking up to tomorrow's morning paper with Nounen-chan's nude picture occupying the entire page for promotions
33: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:53:38.88 P ID:
地位的には剛力だけど年齢が18歳になったばっかりって感じ
Status-wise, it'd be like Gouriki, but when she just turned 18
37: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:54:38.50 0 ID:
155万部ってすげーな
ネットが普及したしもうこの記録破れねえだろうな
1.55 million is amazing.
I don't think that record will ever be broken, thanks also to the prevalence of the Internet.
42: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:56:00.60 0 ID:
堺雅人
Masato Sakai

http://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000417743547/9615a573521a54e82b61ebb08d12468f.jpeg
57: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:59:36.38 0 ID:
>>42
嫁がヌードになってたから次は夫婦でだな
His wife already went nude before, so they should do it together next as a couple
43: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:56:03.18 0 ID:
剛力が脱いでも300部くらいしか売れないだろ
Even if Gouriki goes nude, I think it'll only sell about 300 copies
44: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:56:10.75 0 ID:
宮沢りえは当時人気あったし剛力みたいなポジじゃなかったよ

喩えるなら2~3年前の佐々木希だろ
But Rie Miyazawa was really popular back then, and she wasn't in Gouriki's position.
If you had to compare, maybe to Nozomi Sasaki from 2-3 years ago
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/67/0001041167/77/imgbec92e12zikfzj.jpeg
65: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:00:45.10 O ID:
>>44
思い出補正されてんだろうけど出版当時はもう下り坂だったよ
People are probably just glorifying the past, but she was already on the decline when it was released
47: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:58:04.25 0 ID:
あれは突然でビックリしたけど
今の時代ならどこかで前もって情報が漏れてしまうんだろうな
That was so sudden and shocking, but I think that nothing can be kept secret these days, as it will eventually be leaked somewhere.
50: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:58:50.46 O ID:
能年ってまだあまちゃんとカルピスだけだからな
宮沢のイメージではない
ごり押しとはいえCMドラマでまくりでCDも出してる剛力がイメージに近い

堀北ガッキーは年行き過ぎだし
For Nounen, she only has Amachan and Calpis so she still doesn't have Miyazawa's image and status.
And though Gouriki may be overhyped, the fact that she's all over commercials, dramas, and even has a CD makes her more comparable to that image.

Horikita and Gakky are just too old now to be compared to that.
http://livedoor.4.blogimg.jp/seserara-geinou/imgs/7/5/75491409.gif
56: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:59:28.39 0 ID:
18歳の上戸彩とかは?
What about an 18 y/o Aya Ueto?
http://mosa.jp/uploads/work_123_%E3%83%8F%E3%82%9A%E3%83%B3%E3%83%95_%E4%B8%8A%E6%88%B8%E5%BD%A9.jpg
60: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 20:59:56.17 0 ID:
>>56
菅野美穂と同等、宮沢りえには到底及ばない
She's on the same level as Miho Kanno, nowhere near Rie Miyazawa
68: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:01:09.06 0 ID:
いま前田敦子が脱いだらこの記録越える?
Will Atsuko Maeda be able to break this record if she takes her clothes off now?
http://tvcap.dip.jp/2013/4/9/130409-1158540390.jpg
91: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:05:27.88 0 ID:
>>68
数字はともかく(まあ間違いなく前田のほうが良い数字叩き出すと思うが)前田が卒業と同時くらいにヌード写真集出してたら宮沢りえと同格かそれ以上の評価だろうな
Regardless of the number of sales (where I think Maeda will definitely do better in), if she came out with a nude picture book around the time of her graduation then it would have probably been classified in the same level, or even greater than Rie Miyazawa.
78: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:02:33.34 0 ID:
誰もやってなかったから衝撃だったんだよ
しかも予告も無しに突然新聞の全面広告だぞ
It was unprecedented and that's why it was shocking. And it was suddenly advertised on the entire page of the papers.
84: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:03:33.54 0 ID:
宮沢りえってドラマも歌もパッとしない実体のないアイドルだったけどな。
But Rie Miyazawa used to be an idol without any essence since her dramas and songs flopped
100: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:06:37.61 0 ID:
>>84
当時握手システムあったら楽勝だったろうなw
It would have been much easier for her if we had the handshake system back then
97: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:06:13.26 0 ID:
宮沢りえって
サンタフェで一流になったって感じだったぞ
それまでは今の武井咲とか剛力ぐらいのタレントだったような記憶 by 50男
It felt that Rie Miyazawa became 1st rate thanks to Santa Fe.
I think she was just on the level of Emi Takei or Gouriki.
-- by a man in his 50s 
106: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:07:09.45 0 ID:
>>97
それは無い
当時学生だったが人気あったよ
No way. I was a student back then, but she really was popular.
118: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:11:43.90 0 ID:
>>97
リハウスCMも、僕らの七日間戦争も、フンドシカレンダーも、みなおかのレギュラーもサンタフェ以前の話
その時点では既に有名アイドルの地位にいた

ただしオランダ人の血が入ってるからいずれは太るということでりえママが独断で決めた
The commercial for Rehouse, Bokura no Nanokakan Sensou, the fundoshi calendar, and being a regular on Minaoka all happened before her Santa Fe book. She already established this position as a popular idol back then.

But she has Dutch blood in her and she'd get fat eventually so Rie-mama apparently decided on it by herself

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/taatang/imgs/7/7/77a4b690.jpg?f1323aee
114: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:09:40.33 0 ID:
当時のファン達は泣きながら抜●たんだっけ
Her fans back then cried as they jerked off, right?
126: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:13:21.81 0 ID:
ガッキーじゃ弱いな
今あえて言うなら能年か
Gakky would be too weak.
If we had to choose one now, it'd be Nounen.
144: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:15:41.21 0 ID:
http://y-bbs.net/bbs_ai/aidoru/img/11334444360006.jpg

http://y-bbs.net/bbs_ai/aidoru/img/11334444360015.jpg

http://y-bbs.net/bbs_ai/aidoru/img/11334444360016.jpg

http://y-bbs.net/bbs_ai/aidoru/img/11334444360017.jpg

http://y-bbs.net/bbs_ai/aidoru/img/11334444360024.jpg

この時にホマキが脱いでいたとしたら伝説になった
If HoMaki took her clothes off at this time, she could have become a legend

147: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:16:37.67 0 ID:
>>144
顔変わんねえな
人気はこの頃のがあったか
Her face hasn't changed at all.
So she was already popular since this time, huh.
149: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:16:53.27 0 ID:
全盛期に脱いだってのがポイント
どれだけ人気あっても旬をすぎてから脱いだら意味がない
堀北が今脱いでもインパクト薄い
The point here is that she took her clothes off during her prime.
No matter how popular you may be, there'd be no meaning to it if you're already over the hill.
Same goes for Horikita, the impact won't be as strong even if she went nude now.
163: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:19:07.65 0 ID:
朝新聞開いたらAKB全員がヌードになってるような衝撃
It's as shocking as seeing everyone in AKB nude when you open the paper
http://img3.blogs.yahoo.co.jp/ybi/1/b0/33/hacchann91/folder/485445/img_485445_7576042_4?20110408030250
179: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:21:05.48 0 ID:
>>163
全員脱いで裸で握手会して
やっと宮沢に並ぶかなw
They'd only be able to reach Miyazawa's level if all of them went nude and did a handshake event
169: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:20:03.17 0 ID:
2年くらい前のガッキーあたりじゃないかと思うが
今はもう女になりました私感でちゃってるし
I thought it's Gakky from 2 years ago, but now she just emits this aura of someone who's already matured.
http://tvcap.info/2013/5/19/130519-2106410332.jpg
177: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:20:47.80 0 ID:
ガッキーは国民的人気って感じでもないだろ
But Gakky doesn't even particularly seem to be that popular on a national scale
188: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:22:10.77 0 ID:
菅野美穂もそれなりに驚いたけどな
But I was also shocked at Miho Kanno's nude book

http://haiyudb.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/%E8%8F%85%E9%87%8E%E7%BE%8E%E7%A9%82.jpg
199: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:24:07.99 0 ID:
で結局今でいうの誰なんだよ
Then who would it be now?
207: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:25:25.08 0 ID:
>>199
2~3年前の佐々木希&今の能年
Nozomi Sasaki 2-3 years ago & Nounen right now
205: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:25:18.26 0 ID:
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/line_pr/imgs/1/2/12c8a813.jpg

これは現在の石原さとみ
This is the current Satomi Ishihara

http://images.star-pedia.com/big/2012811/05JGFF0CL4.jpg

若いときの石原さとみ
This was Satomi Ishihara when she was young
211: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:25:56.17 0 ID:
>>205
前のが可愛い
She looked cuter before
217: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:27:13.54 0 ID:
今誰が脱いでも155万部も売れないだろ
I don't think anyone who'd go nude now would be able to sell 1.55 million in this age
230: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:28:57.01 0 ID:
>>217
そんなもんAKBが全員全裸で握手すりゃ抜くだろw
Something like that will be surpassed once everyone in AKB goes nude and conducts a handshake event LOL
235: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:29:16.37 0 ID:
ヘアヌード解禁直後の清潔感ある国民的アイドルが10代でヘアヌード

だもの
Well, a national idol who had the pure and clean image went nude in her teens.
It was that huge.
261: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:37:41.74 0 ID:
佐々木希は論外だが能年が明日発表したらインパクトとして並べる
Nozomi Sasaki would be out of the question, but if the same thing happened tomorrow with Nounen, then I guess the impact would be the same.

http://img.guideme.jp/im/hD5Xss/myzlmJ/FbM2OCB+UxWezbKocOrPjdbLwjcmDG6sFcKrXZritp2NHHrhctyz5ZTeCIbuZqqnRtIb3CvQ==
274: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:40:30.05 0 ID:
能年は実はまだそんなに知名度すら無いレベルのタレント
あまちゃんってドラマが流行ったのを知ってる人は多いだろうけど
But honestly speaking, Nounen isn't even on that high of a level yet.
It's just that there are a lot of people who know that the drama Amachan became popular.
290: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:44:09.68 0 ID:
宮沢りえて18才まで処女だっただろ
そこがすごかったんだよ
今の10代アイドルなんて非処女しかいないだろ?
Rie Miyazawa was a virgin until she was 18, right? That was amazing. All idols in their teens right now aren't virgins anymore, right?
305: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:47:51.19 0 ID:
宮沢りえ人気を脳内補正しすぎ
絶対人気では広末の方が上だった
All of you are just glorifying your image of Rie Miyazawa in your heads.
When it comes to absolute popularity, Hirosue was definitely higher.

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/tsta-shop/cabinet/tleka/t0000000/img57166495.jpg
307: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:47:52.93 0 ID:
ぶっちゃけ広末ブームは宮沢りえなんか全然超えてたよ。
Honestly speaking, the Hirosue boom was waaaaay above someone like Rie Miyazawa's popularity
316: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:49:07.24 0 ID:
広末が全盛期にヌードになってたら余裕で記録越えてたな
Hirosue would have easily surpassed that record if she took her clothes off in her prime
http://small-waist.seesaa.net/pages/conv_default/image/hirosue1.jpg?maxwidth=100%25
337: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:53:02.36 0 ID:
宮沢りえと広末どっちが上と感じるかは世代の違いという気がする
I think comparing which was better between Rie Miyazawa and Hirosue is just the gap between 2 different generations
358: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:55:58.07 0 ID:
>>337
43歳で両方経験してるけど広末ブームのほうが上だわ。
宮沢りえはふんどしとかサンタフェとか貴乃花と婚約とかインパクトはデカいんだけどw
I'm 43 and have experienced both, but the Hirosue boom was bigger. Rie Miyazawa though left the bigger impact, what with her fundoshi, Santa Fe, and getting engaged to Takanohana.
359: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:56:01.13 0 ID:
そんなに凄い人気だったっけ?

リハウス僕七戦争ドリームラッシュと順調にきたけど
そっから伸び悩んでCMでもあんま見なくなって

このまま消えそうな落ち目感のとき全裸で巻き返した
って記憶あんだけど
Was she really that popular?
Everything went well with her, from Rehouse to Bokura no Nanokakan Sensou, but it felt like she hit a wall after that and stopped appearing in commercials. 
And just when people thought she was on a decline and was about to disappear---then BAM! came her full nude picture book which essentially announced her comeback.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51sPAbhA1-L._SL500_.jpg
378: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:58:06.85 0 ID:
正直宮沢りえより観月ありさのほうが人気あったよな
Honestly though, Alisa Mizuki was more popular than Rie Miyazawa
http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/51d+8EisfRL._SL500_.jpg
382: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:59:03.43 0 ID:
>>378
伝説の少女だからな
Because she was the legendary girl
383: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:59:03.30 0 ID:
宮沢りえは貴乃花と結婚してたら幸せになれてただろうにな
親に別れさせられて可哀想
Rie Miyazawa probably would have become happier if she got to marry Takanohana.
I felt sorry for her when her parents made them split up.

http://momonori.iza.ne.jp/images/user/20110908/1545976.jpg
392: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:00:16.28 0 ID:
>>383
女優として成功したからいいじゃないの
Isn't it alright since she's made it big as an actress?
416: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:02:34.28 0 ID:
>>383
どうかなぁ
貴乃花も相当エキセントリックな性格みたいだし
というかあの一家だし
I wonder.
It seems that Takanohana has a really eccentric personality.
And he is from that family, after all.
385: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 21:59:13.40 0 ID:
くらえ
Take this!
http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201112/02/37/b0246437_14142723.jpg
413: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:01:57.92 0 ID:
>>385
浮きすぎいいいいいいいいいいい
She's stood out so muuuuuuuuuuch
431: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:04:03.15 0 ID:
>>385
すげえw
次元が違うw
Wow LOL
She was from a totally different dimension LOL
407: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:01:31.59 0 ID:
みなさんのおかげですの時の宮沢りえ
可愛いすぎwwwww
Rie Miyazawa was extremely cute during Minasan no okage desu wwwwww

http://i.imgur.com/vXPvHsb.jpg
425: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:03:30.17 0 ID:
>>407
左下神だな
The lower left one, she's like a goddess
408: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:01:39.39 0 ID:
今宮沢りえに相当する人がいない
剛力くらいの露出があって好感度が抜群にあって清純派アイドル的な人
There's no one now who's comparable to Rie Miyazawa.
A person with a clean and pure idol-like image, has about the same amount of exposure as Gouriki, and is extremely well-liked.
433: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:04:20.99 0 ID:
>>408
強いて言えば綾瀬位か。でも今だと年をとり過ぎてる感があるしまだまだ小粒。
If we had to choose one, then Ayase would be the only one that fits that description. But she feels too old now, and she's still nothing compared to Miyazawa.
439: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:04:38.34 0 ID:
発売日に朝のワイドショーで購入するための行列中継

午後はヌードの写真が何ページであるか その内ヘアが何ページかを解説

草原に座る宮沢の写真をイラストにして リポーターが「ここにヘアが写っています!」と

解説していた by 50男
On the morning gossip shows, they gave reports about the long lines on the day of its release. In the afternoon, they described how many pages had nude pictures and how many pages showed up to her bush. The reporter pointed out a picture of Miyazawa sitting on a grass field and said, "the hair can be seen here!".
-- by a man in his 50s
446: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:05:30.89 0 ID:
http://www.officiallyjd.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/20130329_miyazawarie_18.jpg
447: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:05:39.13 0 ID:
宮沢りえに近いのは全盛期のエリカ様かなあ・・・?
Maybe the person closest to Rie Miyazawa would be Erika-sama in her prime...?

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6880/265986446360b85f500ffe7.jpg
462: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:07:04.32 0 ID:
宮沢りえが流行ってる時10代だったやつが冷静に見れてないだけ
おっさんからしたら宮沢も広末も変わらん
I think the guys in their teens back when Rie Miyazawa was popular just weren't able to look at things calmly.
For an old man like me, Miyazawa and Hirosue aren't that much different.
473: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:08:20.84 0 ID:
広末は女優としての評価とアイドル歌手としての成功と
今じゃ考えられないオールマイティな活躍してたマルチタレントだったな
Hirosue was recognized as and actress, and was successful as an idol singer.
She was so multi-talented, something like that unthinkable at this day and age.
510: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:13:25.94 0 ID:
こりゃ可愛いわ
This is cute

http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/o/owarenai/20060630/20060630122714.jpg
513: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:13:45.48 0 ID:


この時がピーク
This was her peak
872: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:56:18.22 0 ID:
そもそも何で脱いだの?
18才の人気アイドル女優だったんでしょ
家族の借金かなんか?
Why did she take her clothes off in the first place?
She was 18 and was a popular idol/actress, right?
Did her family have to pay some debts off?
877: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:57:12.52 0 ID:
>>872
そういう戦略なんだよ
奇抜な事をして話題を集める
ふんどしカレンダーとか出してた
That was their strategy.
They did something unconventional and gathered buzz.
She even did that fundoshi calendar.
895: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:59:19.54 0 ID:
>>872
ママが「人気絶頂の今脱いだら絶対話題になる」と決断した。
Her mama decided that she'd definitely garner attention when she takes her clothes off at the peak of her popularity. 
487: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/08(火) 22:10:20.08 0 ID:
あれから本当に色々あってすったもんだしたけども
今じゃ実力派舞台女優だもの
すごい人だよ
大したもんだ
A lot of things happened after that which caused a lot of fuss, but now she's one of the most talented stage actresses.
She's an amazing person. She really is.

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