Wednesday, June 25, 2014

Japan bows out of the World Cup


1: 第四期次席φ ★@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:35:53.08 ID:???0.net
Fifa World Cup Brazil 2014

Group C's final match
Japan 1 - Colombia 4

0 - 1: Juan Cuadrado (17th minute / PK)
1 - 1: Shinji Okazaki (47th minute)
1 - 2: Jackson Martinez (55th minute)
1 - 3: Jackson Martinez (83rd minute)
1 - 4: James Rodriguez (90th minute)

http://mainichi.jp/graph/2014/06/25/20140625k0000e050204000c/image/028.jpg




14 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:38:10.65 ID:pdJnHdH00.net
弱すぎワロタ 
LOL, so weak
22 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:39:25.07 ID:DXKPU3hL0.net
力は出し切れたな。湿度30度、気温も31度だったけど日陰だった。 
1、2戦目とは別のチームのように日本はよく動けた。 
They gave it their all. Humidity at 30 degress, and temperature at 31 but they were under the shade.
Japan moved much better in this game compared to the first and 2nd games.
26 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:40:16.39 ID:qD2PlC5I0.net
>>22
2軍が相手だったからね 
Because the opponent was mainly the reserves
23 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:39:27.94 ID:Bi6rAfo90.net
しかしNHK見てるがスペースの使い方が致命的に下手だな日本 
何で中央に固まっちゃうんだ… 
I was watching this on NHK, but Japan's hopelessly bad at utilizing the free spaces.
Why were they all bunched up towards the middle?
27 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:40:20.11 ID:P9ymCBHM0.net
>>23
それが自分たちのサッカー()なんだろ 
That's what they call "their own brand of soccer"
28 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:40:25.82 ID:NgcZjrJn0.net
感動をありがとうセールはまだですか? 
So will we be having thank you sales and discounts?
31 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:40:37.07 ID:v+mPBIFEO.net
所属クラブで結果を残せてない選手を使うな。 
頼むから、純粋に実力主義で代表メンバーを組んでくれ。 
Don't use players who haven't done anything for their respective clubs.
Please, form our National Team purely based on ability for a change.
33 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:40:44.46 ID:6L5Vagj80.net
次は選手の経年劣化を考慮した人選をして欲しいものだ 

何か広告宣伝の絡みで使い続けなきゃならんのかね
I hope they consider the decline in the players' quality when choosing the members next time.
Are they bound by sponsors that they just have to keep on using the same players?
35 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:41:03.03 ID:/ZO+teU90.net
ギリシャ「お前らの言う通り勝ってやったのに」 
Greece: "And we just won our game, just like how you hoped it"
39 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:41:18.16 ID:D5TAX0zv0.net
何も見るとこなく終わったな 
マジでなんだったのか 
So it just ended like that without even anything worth noting.
Seriously, what was all of this about?
41 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:41:22.69 ID:vEnCfaDB0.net
ツイッター見たら感動をありがとうばかり見るけど 
いったいどこに感動したんだろう? 
日本代表はW杯出られただけで十分という認識?
I'm seeing all these "Thank you, I was touched" comments on Twitter, but what on earth were they touched by?
Are these people satisfied with just being able to participate in the World Cup? 
44 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:41:42.87 ID:SrzzU0Bs0.net
史上最高の弱さだったな 
組み合わせ恵まれてこれ 
This looked like the weakest team in history.
We were blessed with the group pairings, and this is what we get.
48 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:41:57.74 ID:VpzfSXkw0.net
この代表に感動する要素ないよな 
Nothing to be impressed about this team at all
49 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:42:05.67 ID:6J59mIPA0.net
夢も希望もないわ 
There's no hopes nor dreams here
55 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:42:43.56 ID:DJXFCA3p0.net
ドイツW杯の時より酷いんじゃね?
Isn't this even worse than the World Cup in Germany? 
56 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:42:45.01 ID:Bi6rAfo90.net
これで感動とか言ってるようじゃベスト8なんて50年経っても無理だと思う 
If people are saying that they were moved by something like this, then I don't think we'll ever manage to get to the quarter finals in the next 50 years
61 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:43:01.15 ID:81d+QEYX0.net
世界ランクって正直やな~w 
The world ranking is pretty honest, huh w
62 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:43:10.64 ID:pmtIFKt40.net
プロを名乗るなこのアマチュアどもめが 
These damn amateurs who are calling themselves pros
63 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:43:11.26 ID:VEYmOah90.net
もっとスピード上げないと点取れないな 
相手が戻ってからじゃパス出す先も潰されてるし 
They can't score a goal if they don't take a more speedy approach.
If they just pass once the opponent has reorganized their defense then the receiver will be marked.
66 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:43:28.59 ID:34UOStOD0.net
あさ起きてびっく 
こんなにぼろ負けだったとはー 
I got shocked when I woke up.
Wow, I can't believe we were trashed.
67 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:43:33.06 ID:6L5Vagj80.net
もう世界ランクなんて3桁でいいよ 
Japan  should be ranked in the hundreds already
77 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:44:31.13 ID:SrzzU0Bs0.net
>>67
だな 
いちいち低すぎるとか文句言うバカうざいわ 
Yeah.
I'm sick of all those fools claiming how our current ranking is too low.
69 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:43:41.64 ID:Lcy5A0mZ0.net
アジア予選が無駄 
てかアジア枠が無駄 
The Asian qualifiers were a waste.
Rather, spots for Asian teams are a waste.
75 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:44:18.31 ID:SiepLVrw0.net
ここまでいいところなく終わるとはな・・・ 
I can't believe that this would all end without a single positive thing...
80 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:44:39.85 ID:dGf4oLp40.net
コロンビア相手に勝とうなんて甘い考え 
負けは、決まったのと同じなのに 

なんで失望してる連中がいるのか意味がわからん 
本気で勝てると思ったのかな 
Just the thought that we could beat Colombia was naive.
It was already decided from the outset that we'd lose.

I don't get why some people here are so disappointed.
Did they really think that we could win?
83 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:44:59.82 ID:gzen2kEC0.net
ちょっと渋谷に行ってくるね 
I'm off to Shibuya for a bit
84 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:45:00.70 ID:+3iziRFo0.net
どうせ広告屋のための選手を代表選手にするんだから 
2chで何言ったって変わらないんじゃね? 
もう4年後も大敗して日本サッカーが地に落ちるとこまでいかないとダメかもしれない 
They're still going to keep using players as their walking advertisements and include them in the national team, so I don't think anything will change even if you make all this noise here on 2ch.
I think there's no more helping our team unless we take a massive beating at the tournament 4 years from now and just let the Japanese football scene fall down to the ground.
88 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:45:10.70 ID:+AaPGjZl0.net
一回アジア予選でも負けてみれば? 
そうすりゃ勘違いも治るだろ 
Why not lose at the Asian qualifiers once?
That way, this wrong idea that we've had will all be wiped away.
92 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:45:50.15 ID:Aq2Cjl3Q0.net
何だかんだ言っても、優勝を狙うとか自信満々なことを言っていた 
本田と長友にはかなり責任があると思う 
I do think that Honda and Nagatomo who were so confident in saying that they were gunning to become champions are largely to blame for this
103 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:46:35.21 ID:iyecn5Br0.net
世界は遠いのお 
てかこれでアジア枠は減るな 
よかった 
The world is still so far away.
But I think they'll decrease the spots given to Asian teams with this.
Good.
104 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:46:36.83 ID:v0xpZDRt0.net
グループリーグ突破ってのは大変なこと 
敗退しても恥でも何でもない 
もちろん反省し原因究明しなければ次につながらないが 
Advancing to the knockout stage is a difficult thing.
There's no shame at all in losing at the group stages.
But of course, we have to reflect on this and determine the cause so we can use that experience in the future.
106 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:46:42.53 ID:mgPtdE9e0.net
このスレ、試合見ないで適当に書いてる奴多すぎだろ 
Too many people writing random stuff on this thread who probably didn't even watch the match
128 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:48:09.36 ID:gzen2kEC0.net
>>106
w
113 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:47:07.69 ID:RSRlBpDE0.net
2点目がもう完全に掌の上って感じ。 
岡崎のゴール以外、試合通じてほぼペケルマンのプランの中だった事がはっきりした瞬間。 
It felt like we were already dancing on top of their palms during the time they scored their 2nd goal.
It was the moment I realized that we were all trapped in Pekerman's plans throughout the entire game, apart from Okazaki's goal.
114 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:47:13.61 ID:leKPOquc0.net
筋力、体力、キック力、個人技すべて劣る 
Muscle strength, stamina, kicking strength, skills -- we were inferior in every way
118 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:47:19.42 ID:xwq3+zX00.net
とりあえず伸びた鼻を木っ端微塵にへし折られてよかった 
これでも世界との差を感じないと思うようであれば病気
At any rate, I'm glad that we've crash-landed down to earth.
If people still don't feel that gap with the rest of the world then they need help. 
127 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:48:05.88 ID:XNVr2hjd0.net
負けたのは結果として受け入れるしかないが 
全ての試合内容が勘弁してくれってレベルで酷いな 
We just have to accept the result that we lost.
But then the level of all the matches were so low that I want to say "gimme a break".
149 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:49:40.58 ID:sJNYT9Oi0.net
>>127
ギリシャ戦後の(主に地元の)観客からの大ブーイングとか酷かったなw 
ブラジル人はサッカーを見る眼が肥えてるから、人数少ないギリシャ相手のあの体たらくには我慢できなかったらしい 
The booing that the team got at the end of the match against Greece (especially from the locals) was so bad w
Brazilians have very keen eyes when watching football, so they probably couldn't take how our players were moving without intent against a depleted Greek squad.
138 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:49:00.79 ID:wxUQC28H0.net
サッカーの1-4て野球でいうと何対何? 
What's soccer's 1-4 like in baseball?
166 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:50:32.25 ID:4petfiDEO.net
>>138
10-0コールド負けぐらい 
Like losing by 10-0, and having it called off
222 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:53:01.67 ID:Wloj307s0.net
>>138
2-10か3-10 
くらいの差 
Like losing by 2-10 or 3-10
148 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:49:39.52 ID:zKcGrdPq0.net
毎回Wカップではろくな結果残せてないのに 
なんでこんなに盛り上がるのかわからんのだが? 

テニスの錦織が勝っても負けても大したニュースにならんのに 
なんでサッカーだけこんなに特別なんだ? 

マスコミに踊らされてるとしか思えないわ 
I really don't get what all this fanfare is even if we haven't really done anything significant in each of the World Cups we've been at.

There's not a lot of news about Tennis' Nishikori if he wins or loses, but why is soccer treated specially?

All I can think of is that we're all being manipulated by the media.
158 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:49:58.58 ID:YEWzGtQA0.net
ゴミ拾い民は代表選手を拾って帰ってこいよ 
Those guys who were picking up the trash, they should also pick up our team before coming home
http://english.kyodonews.jp/photos/assets/201406/06210046-thumbx300.jpg
159 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:50:02.30 ID:EIEvyltD0.net
またこっから監督決めて、選手集めて親善試合して、予選こなしてw杯まで四年とか長いわ 
こんな代表、四年後出れるんかわからんけども 
And again, we'll have to go through the process of choosing a coach, gathering players, playing international friendlies, take part in the qualifiers on the road to the next World Cup. 4 years is too long. I dunno if this team can even make it 4 years later, though.
160 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:50:02.38 ID:8j4b6xVZ0.net
試合後に飲み屋で一杯やってたら 
隣のおやじが「サッカーなんてダメダメw、やっぱ野球だよ!」 
「野球は世界一になれるのにwサッカーはなんであんなに弱いのかねえwww」 
だって 
When I had a drink at a bar after the match, the old guy next to me said,
"Soccer's no good w It's all about baseball!"
"To think that we can get 1st in the world in baseball w I wonder why we're so weak in soccer www"
172 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:50:50.07 ID:zo4nmn4o0.net
攻められないFW、守れないDF 
ダメすぎジャパン 
代表は全員入れ替えた方がいい 
Attackers who can't attack, defenders who can't defend.
Japan is just terrible.
They should just go and change all the members.
174 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:50:55.08 ID:m57rNykX0.net
日本サッカー協会のクズ理事どもは全員解任! 
Fire all the board members of the JFA!
177 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:50:59.12 ID:aSGeV3V/0.net
オリンピックもW杯もなんで本番でやったこと無い戦術とるのかね 
岡田は結果だしたけど、じゃあ4年間は何だったんだよ 
選手以上に監督や協会の方が未熟なんだよ 
I really wonder why our team likes to use tactics that they've never done before during the actual game itself.
Okada came out with results though, but then what were these past 4 years for?
The coach and the association are the ones who are incompetent, more than the players.
225 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:53:14.90 ID:/ZO+teU90.net
帰国時だれが水かけられるん 
So who'd get splashed with water when they come back home?
243 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:54:28.74 ID:3t6RClt00.net
もう暫く日本代表は見たくないな、あまりに絶望的すぎる 
I don't want to see the Japanese team for a while. This is all too hopeless.
247 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:54:43.06 ID:Hh5m7dwr0.net
JリーグじゃなくてAリーグを作れば? 

AはアジアのAね。 

それくらいしないと世界には勝てない。 
Why not make an A league instead of the J-League?
A for Asia.
I don't think we'll win against the rest of the world if we don't do something like that.
271 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:55:28.98 ID:qD+J8sT50.net
ゴミ拾いジャパン使えねー 
さっさと日本帰ってきてスタジアムのゴミ拾ってろ 
Trash pickers Japan is so useless.
Hurry up back to Japan and pick up the trash here at our stadiums.
273 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:55:38.85 ID:0Wl4JG8X0.net
サッカーへの予算 
削った方がいいと思います 
I think it would be better if we lessened the budget allocated to soccer
276 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:55:42.32 ID:YGXg36o/0.net
やっぱ2・3年前がピークだったんだろうな 
本田はキープ力全然なくなってるし 
長友も攻撃参加で自分を見失ってるし 
香川は足元へのアシストがあってこその 
シュートへたくそだし 
内田位じゃないの4年後期待できるのは 
青山もよかったけど歳が歳だしね 
ま、スクラップアンドビルドするいい時期なんじゃね 
So we probably peaked 2, 3 years ago.
Honda lost his ability to keep the ball.
Nagatomo just keeps on joining the attack and has lost sight of himself.
Kagawa can't do anything without anyone providing for him, and he's horrible at shooting.
Isn't it that Uchida's about the only one whom we can still count on in 4 years time?
Aoyama was good too, but we also have to consider his age.
Well, I guess it's the right time for us to build everything up from scratch again.
293 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:56:25.17 ID:BwDH2/9K0.net
今回の結果まとめ 

老齢ドログバ無しのコートジボアールと接戦、ドログバが出てきた途端にビビって2失点 
10人になったギリシャに攻めきれず、「攻めてこないから楽だった」とギリシャ選手談 
2軍のコロンビア相手に接戦、後半投入されたエース1人にビビって3失点 

本田<ワールドカップ優勝するんで! 
Summary of the tournament

Had a close match with Ivory Coast who didn't have old man Drogba, then got scared once he came on and conceded 2 goals.
Couldn't attack against a 10-man Greece, and Greece's players said "It was easy since they weren't attacking".
Played a close match against Colombia's reserves, then got scared once 1 of their aces came on and conceded 3 goals.

Honda: "We're going to win the World Cup!"
282 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:55:58.47 ID:TT+Yj6P0O.net
もっと頑張ってくれると思ってたんだけどなぁ 
負けるならせめて1点差までに抑えないとなぁ 
I did think that we'd do much better, though.
I would have at least hoped that we would lose by just a goal.
306 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:57:04.27 ID:8UCgDu9v0.net
日本に司令塔も中心選手も要らない、一から出なおしてくれ 
Japan doesn't need a control tower, nor a main man. Start from scratch.
335 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:58:23.19 ID:/ktYEtwg0.net
感動をありがとう!!
Thanks, I was touched!! 
342 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:58:43.00 ID:qeZSMAxh0.net
サムライなら切腹しろよ 
If you guys are samurais, then commit seppuku
379 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 10:00:53.99 ID:Mvn8493cO.net
始まる前のコロンビアとは引き分けて後は2勝で余裕みたいな雰囲気、今考えたら笑える 
It's laughable now how people were thinking prior to the World Cup that we could win the first 2 matches and then draw against Colombia
176 :名無しさん@恐縮です@\(^o^)/:2014/06/25(水) 09:50:58.91 ID:85Lhm9VG0.net
今日のような姿勢を初戦から見せていれば、今頃グループリーグを突破していたことでしょう 
もちろん、そうしなかったというのも含めて実力だし、今さら言っても仕方のないことではある 

まあ、悔いのない大会というわけではないけど 
最後に世界との差を見せ付けられたのは不幸中の幸いだったな 
We might have been able to get out of the group stages if we just showed this kind of stance from the first match, but the fact that we weren't able to is also an indication of our abilities, and there's no more point in saying these things now.

It wasn't a tournament where we didn't have any regrets, but the positive that we can take out of this is that we were shown how big of a gap there still is between us and the world at the very end.




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