異論は認めない
It's all FF8's fault.
No objections will be entertained.
But no one has broken FF8's record yet w
Because it's not "fantasy-ing" anymore
○ファイナルシネマ劇場
× Final Fantasy
✓ Final Cinema theater
Because it's supposed to be a game for loners, then they turn it into a net game
Because of the movie version
http://bb.watch.impress.co.jp/news/2001/09/10/ff_p.jpg
Hooray for spending real money! →Currently
http://www.4gamer.net/games/199/G019924/20130809052/TN/002.jpg
Because of 7's lame spin-off
http://neoapo.com/images/game/1565/82886c2967de00ec8b359d642407a48f.jpg
Because it's a gross RPG
There must've been a lot of people who got alienated with 11.
http://strangers001.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/illustmodal_00.jpg
I was able to enjoy until FFX, even while thinking that it didn't seem too much like the FF of old . The screenplay became atrocious from X-2 onwards.
- 20 :名無しさん :2014/04/20(日)21:53:58 ID:1Q9kLtSq3
- >>10これ
7 8 9当たりはそんなでもない
This.
7, 8, and 9 not so much
Screenplay: Motomu Toriyama
You get the picture...
Because it's not Amano anymore
And FF15's an action game, are they looking down on us?
http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/035/293/51c2a7ea6786f.jpg
Because they're not releasing sequels. Hurry up with 12.
Mythril as your initial equipment?
Because when you see the promotional movies, you just say, "Beautiful graphics"----- and that's it.
CC is better.
Because they numbered them even if they didn't have to. They didn't have to do 8, 11, 12, and 14.
I liked 3's world setting
http://static.zerochan.net/Final.Fantasy.III.full.1035506.jpg
Bring back the world map and the flying ship
Because of the gross characters that don't fit the period. This was fine back in the day, but now...
When they started making realistic looking characters, they weren't able match the tempo and the themes that they had established in the past. It felt pathetic, as if watching a cosplay live action flick. Either they write the screenplay to make it seem more realistic, or make the characters look more 2-D like Tales.
I think entirely giving them voices had the opposite effect. My mom laughed when the characters shouted out their lame lines.
ていいたいだけのネガキャン とスタッフ事情よくわかってないくせに野村批判してるやつ
野村はキャラデザはやっぱり良い
プロデューサーやまとめ役や発案者としての才能がないのは認めるが、そんなに偉い地位にについて なおかつ権限を持って作ったのは2以降のキングダムハーツと零式だけ
ff7とff8も俺は良かったと思う
不安定でわざとらしいキャラクター達のセリフも人間らしくて自然だったし
ラグナ篇の切なさも良い
ff15は雰囲気は好きだし現時点では期待してるけど ベースシナリオ野村をみたときはちょっと嫌な予感がした
キングダムハーツみたいな引き伸ばしの続編大量生産されたら冷める
This is just a propaganda by people who want to say, "The games of our times are better!", and just criticize Nomura without even knowing the staff situation.
Nomura's character designs are good. I admit that he's got no talent as a producer, manager, and proposer, but the only ones he made while having such a high status as that while having authority was Kingdom Hearts 2 onwards and Zeroshiki.
I personally think that both FF7 and FF8 were good. The character lines which seemed too cheesy and cliche actually made them seem like humans and felt natural, and the sorrow that the Laguna arc brought was also good.
I like the atmosphere of FF15 and I have high hopes for it, but I did get a bad feeling when I saw that Nomura is credited for the base scenario. I'll get turned off if he starts dragging it on like Kingdom Hearts and start making sequels.
ここから先、子供を相手にしなくなった
7 was one turning point.
From this point forward, they stopped catering to little kids.
http://blog-imgs-53.fc2.com/i/m/a/imashimenokusari/ff7-009.jpg
On top of having tons of guys with ikemen host-like hairdos, 15 is a game which you don't even know if it's an RPG or not
http://www.cafereo.co.jp/wp/wp-content/uploads/top_4988601320771.jpg
I hope they hurry up and come out with a Jecht version of 10. Name it FF X-0.
http://blog-imgs-24.fc2.com/e/v/e/everydayhappywww/102.jpeg
- 34 :名無しさん :2014/04/20(日)23:54:32 ID:eZUR3mvVh
- >>33これしかない FF10-3だすらしいから抱き合わせで出してほしい
This. I heard they're coming out with FF10-3 so I hope they do this one too.
- 40 :名無しさん :2014/04/21(月)00:00:55 ID:sCzVrr9wl
- >>34こマ?
For real?
- 42 :名無しさん :2014/04/21(月)00:03:05 ID:LjJTQo8m5
- >>40HD版に続編につながる話らしきボイスドラマが入ってた そこまで自信があるわけじゃない
There was a voice drama included in the HD version which kinda hinted at a sequel. I'm not confident about this, though.
I'm looking forward to FF15
前者的には7が終わりの始まり
Guys who liked the FF of old are divided in 2;
the group who likes 1-6 and the group who likes 7-10.
The former calls FF7 as "the beginning of the end".
Dragon Quest hasn't given too much emphasis on graphics, and it's still around. DQ7 was horrible, though.
DraQue also went downhill from 9 onwards
- 43 :名無しさん :2014/04/21(月)00:04:03 ID:LjJTQo8m5
- >>41売り上げは相当なんだけどな でもこれじゃないかんはなんか俺も感じた
The sales were amazing though. But that one did make me feel like "This isn't how it's supposed to be".
I like 12, but I know that I'm part of a minority
http://blog-imgs-29.fc2.com/b/a/o/baoh777/Final_Fantasy_XII_.jpg
Serious response: Because the FF generation became older, and when they evolved the game to match the aging FF generation, they couldn't get new players anymore. The end.
I LOL'd at FF10's drama CD where Shin was revived. I really wonder why Square Enix loves adding useless stuff that destroy their series. In 10's case, it all got destroyed with 10-2, though.
- 46 :名無しさん :2014/04/21(月)00:13:53 ID:LjJTQo8m5
- >>45KHとかff7とかの引き伸ばし商法とかff13-2の引き伸ばしDLCは酷すぎて感動した もはや詐欺だと思うんだけど 実際に訴えられんのか
I was touched at how horrible they tried to prolong KH and FF7, as well as FF13-2's DLC. It's fraud already. Can't we sue them?
They bother to change the game system every single time. I really don't get why they have to come up with new features all the time.
It doesn't have a sense of uniformity as a series anymore, and by doing that, they lose their stability.
1 was fun
I stopped at 9. I was able to confirm that it was a game where they went to the trouble of making the characters 3D which just made them irritating to the max. As they say, they're "ham". All their actions, hand movements, everything just looked gross and it really irked me. How the heck do you think I will be able to put my emotions into that one? This was the first time I absolutely loathed game characters, and this was the worst.
http://blogs.c.yimg.jp/res/blog-0a-4f/taraikeniti/folder/693249/26/36894426/img_5?1301132062
I don't understand it even if they make made-up words like farushi and rushi. I don't even want to try to understand it.
They put too much emphasis on graphics
If that mustache man didn't come up with a movie, he probably would've still been around. It may be titled "Final Fantasy", but no one's gonna watch it if it's totally unrelated to the FF world.
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