What's happening to Arashi's TV ratings?

1： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 14:56:19.01 0 ID:

視聴率 

二宮　プラチナデータ特番　　　8.0 
相葉　ラストホープ特番　　　　7.1（最終回直前SP） 
相葉　ラストホープ（最終回）　8.9 
松本　新歌舞伎座特番　　　　　8.4以下 
嵐　　VS嵐3時間SP　　　　　　14.0 
桜井　家族ゲーム（初回）　　　12.0 

櫻井　ピカルの定理SPゲスト　　6.6 
嵐　　TOKIOカケルSPゲスト　　8.4 

嵐　　　しやがれSP　　　　　　　　10．9 
嵐　　　しやがれ 　　　　　　　　　9.0 
4/20　　 嵐にしやがれ　　　　　　*9.4% 

櫻井　【新】この顔がすごい（初回）　8.0 
4/18　　この顔がすごい　　　　　　　（7%） 

※4/21　*8.6% 有吉反省会　　　　*8.6

TV ratings
Ninomiya - Platina Data Special  8.0
Aiba - Last Hope Special  7.1 (Special before the finale)
Aiba - Last Hope Finale  8.9
Matsumoto - Shinkabukiza Special  below 8.4
Arashi - VS Arashi 3 Hour SP  14.0
Sakurai - Kazoku Game (Pilot)  12.0
Sakurai - Picaru no Teiri SP Guest  6.6
Arashi - TOKIO kakeru SP guest  8.4
Arashi - Shiyagare  10.9
Arashi - Shiyagare  9.0
Arashi - 4/20 Shiyagare 9.4
Sakurai - (New) Kono kao ga sugoi  8.0
Sakurai - 4/18 Kono kao ga sugoi  7.0
4/21 - 8.6, Ariyoshi Hanseikai  8.6 

http://lymas-news.c.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_791/lymas-news/20120206_katou_122.jpg?c=a1

2： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 14:57:42.57 0 ID:

バラエティで見ても相葉以外嫌味な感じしかしない
Even when seeing them on variety shows, all of them look so mean except for Aiba

5： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 15:07:42.96 0 ID:

嵐がいつまで経っても子供に見える
いいおっさんのくせに
Arashi still look like kids no matter how much time passes, despite being old already

6： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 15:10:27.46 0 ID:

ファンが大人にさせてくれない

Their fans aren't letting them grow old

9： sannin29138.nirai.ne.jp 2013/04/22(月) 15:14:26.21 0 ID:

プラチナデータの映画見たけど韓国の国旗映ってて萎えた

I saw the movie of Platina Data but I got turned off once I saw the Korean flag


http://news-trend.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/WS000276.jpg

11： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 15:15:42.74 0 ID:

SMAPがすごすぎただけでジャニーズてこんなもんじゃないの

I think SMAP is just too amazing; this is the norm for Johnny's

14： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 15:17:10.40 0 ID:

SMAP派ってキスマイと何？

Who were the ones under SMAP's wings again? Kis-My and?

15： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 15:19:09.11 P ID:

>>14
山Ｐ

Yama-P

18： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 15:22:06.41 0 ID:

嵐は学生みたいな雰囲気をいつまで続けるんだろうな

I wonder how long Arashi will keep trying to portray this student image

23： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 15:31:46.07 0 ID:

SMAPと比べたら所詮ジャニヲタ専用アイドルだろ

Don't these guys only have the Jani-Otas (Johnny's Otakus) as their fans? While SMAP on the other hand...

32： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 15:50:39.45 0 ID:

結局、SMAPには勝てなかったか

They just can't surpass SMAP

35： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 15:52:37.58 0 ID:

亀梨が亀梨カメカメやったり岡田が平パー兄さんやったり
なんかジャニーズも必死な感じがするなｗ

Kamenashi doing "Kamenashi Kame Kame", Okada doing "Hira pa- niisan", I kind of get the feeling that Johnny's is pretty desperate LOL

http://trendo-hitomatome.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_a1a/trendo-hitomatome/E784A1E9A18C-74026.jpg

39： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 15:54:03.08 T ID:

大麻吸って乱交したのって
嵐のだれ？

Which one from Arashi had that Marijuana 3-play?

47： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 15:59:27.45 0 ID:

>>39
大麻君

(Ohno-kun)

121： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:18:06.46 0 ID:

>>39
そんなのがあったのによくここまでもったって印象しかないなｗ

I'm just amazed that they've come this far even after that kind of scandal LOL

48： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 15:59:52.89 0 ID:

紅白でてた頃の晩年のおっさんみたいだった少年隊でも20代後半だったのか
今のスマップとか嵐とかって若作りしすぎだろ

Even Shonentai who appeared in Kohaku looking like old grandads were in their late 20's. SMAP and Arashi are trying too hard to look young

54： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:01:55.25 0 ID:

男性人気を得られなかったのが痛手だったな嵐

I think it's also a huge blow for Arashi that they weren't able to become popular with the men

62： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:03:35.02 0 ID:

キムタクが23歳でロンバケやってたのに
今の嵐の幼稚さｗ

KimuTaku already did "Long Vacation" when he was 23. Compared to that, Arashi is still so childish


http://img02.ti-da.net/usr/tamihbo76jackie/img_248263_9857225_0.jpg

70： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:05:48.17 0 ID:

まぁ今後本当の意味での国民的グループは出ないだろうな
SMAPが最後になりそうだ

Well, I guess there truly won't be another National Group to come out. SMAP will probably be the last one.

74： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:06:40.25 0 ID:

嵐は夜中にくだらない実験してた頃が輝いてたわ

Arashi shined brightly when they were doing those stupid experiments at night

79： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:07:36.05 0 ID:

露出が増えすぎると飽きられる
嵐もそれに陥ってる

People get tired of things that are overexposed. Arashi is falling into that category.

83： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:09:26.95 0 ID:

>>79
SMAPの時も露出は似たようなもんだった気がしたけど
何がダメだったんだろうな

But SMAP practically had the same amount of exposure back then. I wonder what the problem is.

87： p17139-ipngn401aobadori.miyagi.ocn.ne.jp 2013/04/22(月) 16:10:24.99 0 ID:

>>79
スター性
キムタクがいない中居がいない・・

"Star Factor".

They don't have KimuTaku, they also don't have Nakai..."

80： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:08:25.65 0 ID:

それにしても見事にTVから韓国アイドル消えたなｗ

Anyway, it's commendable that all those Korean idols have disappeared from TV LOL

90： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:11:24.10 0 ID:

>>80
嫌韓とかネトウヨとか抜きにしても
ぶっちゃけ韓国系はブームがとっくに終わってもう飽きられてた

Even if you take out the Korean-haters and the extreme rightists, I seriously think that the Korean Boom has already passed and everyone has just grown tired of it

97： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:13:01.49 0 ID:

カツンは赤西田中がぶっ壊したイメージ

For me, the image of Kat-Tun was destroyed by Akanishi and Tanaka


http://blog-imgs-30-origin.fc2.com/s/u/m/sumomonews/20090914125649e72.jpg

103： p17139-ipngn401aobadori.miyagi.ocn.ne.jp 2013/04/22(月) 16:14:51.25 0 ID:

松潤って昔のほうがオーラあったけど嵐の仲良し売りですっかりなくなった

Matsu-Jun had a bigger aura around him before, but it kinda disappeared now after Arashi promoted themselves as a friendly group


http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3861/gokusen1.jpg

117： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:17:38.16 0 ID:

>>103
一応一人だけ距離取ってたイメージだが

I got the impression that he was the only one who distanced himself from the others

109： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:16:03.34 0 ID:

カツンよりニュースのほうがスキャンダル多くてﾜﾛﾀ

LOL, NEWS has more scandals than Kat-TUN


http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/h/haneka/20060225/20060225161232.jpg

111： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:16:28.86 0 ID:

東方神起の方が年下とか見えないなｗ

I really can't see how Tohoshinki are younger than them


http://toho-jp.net/tonelivetour2012/images/common/logo.jpg

115： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:17:12.25 0 ID:

まだコンサートは人気あるだろ

But their concerts are still popular right?


http://rapssongm.img.jugem.jp/20090829_898464.jpg

122： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:18:18.55 0 ID:

しかも嵐は80年、東方は87年とかだから
結構な年下だな

Arashi were born around the 1980's, while Tohoshinki were in 1987 so they're actually much younger than Arashi

129： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:19:43.68 0 ID:

キムタクの娘さんって
自分のおやじが若い子にキャーキャー言われてるのどう思ってんだろ

I wonder how KimuTaku's daughter feels about her father being cheered on by young girls when he was young


http://123trend.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_b6b/123trend/d100b4f0.jpg

136： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:20:54.07 0 ID:

>>129
そんな事より実母をどう思ってるかの方が気になる

I'm actually more interested in knowing what she thinks about her mother

158： p17139-ipngn401aobadori.miyagi.ocn.ne.jp 2013/04/22(月) 16:25:37.62 0 ID:

>>129
去年嫁が子供連れてライブ見に来たとか言われてたけどな

I heard though that his wife brought their kids to one of their concerts last year

131： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:20:16.47 0 ID:

キンキのサバイバルみたいなドラマに出てたまだ子供の松潤は確かに可愛かった

Matsu-Jun as a kid was so cute when he appeared in that drama which was like the Kinki Kids' "Survival" 

133： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:20:41.98 0 ID:

松潤ってごくせんの頃は影のある美少年って感じだったよね
今は濃い顔のおっさん風になっちゃったけど

Matsu-Jun was like a dark pretty boy during Gokusen. Now he's just turned into an old man with strong facial features

http://mo-mo-ta.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_6eb/mo-mo-ta/ik6zj.jpg

134： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:20:43.97 0 ID:

大麻くんが大野吸って乱交してたのって嵐が上り調子の時だったから良かった

It was lucky for them that Ohno had that Shabu-sex scandal when they were still on the rise


http://blog-imgs-26-origin.fc2.com/n/e/e/neetbaby/20080731160934.jpg

140： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:22:16.94 0 ID:

キスマイが中居の番組によく出てくるのはスマップ派ってことなのか
でもスマップに付いた方が得だよな
中居の番組で何人か顔と名前を知ったから

Kis-My appearing a lot on Nakai's program means they're with the SMAP faction.

But it really is much more beneficial for them to stick with SMAP.

I've gotten to know some of their faces and names now because of Nakai's program.

141： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:22:51.98 0 ID:

なら嵐はTOKIO派なのか

Then does that mean that Arashi is from the TOKIO faction?

143： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:23:25.82 0 ID:

TOKIO嵐関ジャニが一緒っぽ

TOKIO, Arashi and Kanjani are together in that one

149： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:24:10.20 0 ID:

キスマイの三番手って誰？

Whos' the 3rd member of Kis-My?

153： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:24:42.18 0 ID:

>>149
北山

Kitayama

159： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:25:45.81 0 ID:

>>149
前列で一番ブサイクなの

The ugliest one in front

154： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:25:12.87 0 ID:

ｷｽﾏｲｷｽﾏｲｷｽﾏｲｷｽﾏｲっていう呪いみたいなCM見て
こいつら絶対売れないだろ・・・と思ってる

After seeing that cursed "kiss-my-kiss-my-kiss-my" commercial, I am thinking that these guys will never make it big

(related post: http://majide2ch.blogspot.com/2013/04/kis-my-ft2s-gum-commercial-causes.html)

157： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:25:37.03 0 ID:

キスマイのセンターはチョン顔のやつだろ
あれ酷すぎる
香里奈のドラマに出ても不細工2トップで酷かった

That center kid in Kis-My is the one that looks like a Chon (Korean) right? That's horrible. It felt like I was watching an ugly pair in Karina's drama

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/2354841083/image.png

171： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:27:51.61 0 ID:

ジャニも裏側は結構ドロドロゴタゴタしてるよね

It seems that a lot of crazy stuff is going on behind the curtains within Johnny's

175： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:28:26.23 0 ID:

マツジュンが１番不人気なのを最近知って驚いた

I got surprised after recently finding out that MatsuJun is the least popular member

193： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:30:50.03 0 ID:

ジャニーズも落ちてきたし
大手が組んで男アイドル作れば面白いのに

Now that Johnny's have fallen, it would have been much more interesting if some of these big names got together and formed an idol unit

207： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:33:53.01 0 ID:

>>193
EXILEがもっと視聴率取れるグループだったら
まさかのジャニ討伐を果たしていたかも知れん

If EXILE had the ability to win the ratings game, then they just might have succeeded in ousting these Johnny's groups

201： p17139-ipngn401aobadori.miyagi.ocn.ne.jp 2013/04/22(月) 16:31:44.53 0 ID:

スマップとかトキオはアイドルバブルがはじけたあと出てきたから
バラエティで生きてく力がずば抜けてると思う
こればっかは他のグループは勝てないよ

SMAP and TOKIO burst onto the scene when the idol boom has already passed so I think their ability to live off from variety shows is amazing. The other groups just don't stand a chance against them in this category

206： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:33:11.08 0 ID:

TOKIOはタレント化で出まくり
滝つばは舞台
V6はシングル、アリーナツアーなど毎年やってるけど落ちぶれなの？

TOKIO have become talents and are popping up on TV all the time. Takkey and Tsubasa are doing stage plays. V6 have singles and arena tours every year. So can you still consider them as groups on the decline?

215： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:34:48.86 0 ID:

>>206
逆に言えばそれしか残った道が無いんだろ
SMAPは舞台はやらんかもしれんがタレント仕事コンサートシングル全部できてる

If you look at it from another perspective, you can say that that's the only path they have left. SMAP doesn't do stage plays but they're still working as talents, comes out with singles and does concerts 

225： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:37:37.93 0 ID:

ジャニーズはいまのままだと近い将来どこかに討たれそうだ
それがK-POPでは無いと思うが

At this rate, I think Johnny's will be struck down by someone in the near future. But I don't think that K-POP will be the one to do that

241： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:40:14.69 0 ID:

全盛期のSMAP、キムタクブームの時と比べると
どうしても小粒感

When you compare them to SMAP's peak and the KimuTaku boom, Arashi seem like small fry

261： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:46:43.40 0 ID:

>>241
キムタクは第二の石原裕次郎って言われるぐらいの国民的ブーム作ったんだから無理だろ
ジャニだから出来たんじゃ無くてキムタクがたまたまジャニだっただけのこと
それに引っ張られるように他のメンバーも努力して個性が開花しSMAPは一般の高い支持を受ける特別な存在になった

It's impossible for them as KimuTaku had this nationwide boom going on for him where he was even touted as the new Yujiro Ishihara. It didn't happen because KimuTaku is with Johnny's, it's just that KimuTaku happened to be with Johnny's. And thanks to that, the other members did their best to bring out their own individual flavors which led to SMAP becoming this special entity which just got applauded by everyone

275： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:50:20.04 0 ID:

嵐のファンからしたらテレビ仕事はほどほどで
長期ツアーやってくれと思ってるんじゃない
丁度いいじゃないの

I think Arashi fans want the members to lay low on TV appearances and do longer concert tours so this might be a good chance to do that

286： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:52:27.22 0 ID:

中居がジャニーズで一番すごかったのは自分たちじゃなく光GENJIって言ってた

Nakai said that Hikari GENJI was the best in Johnny's, not SMAP

300： p17139-ipngn401aobadori.miyagi.ocn.ne.jp 2013/04/22(月) 16:55:41.36 0 ID:

>>286
凄かった
って過去形でしょ
そりゃ一時のブームでいえば凄まじかった
だから終わりもはやかった

WAS is the key word there. Past tense. Well their rise was really something, and that's why their fall also came quick

290： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:53:20.74 0 ID:

キンキってもう解散しても問題ないくらいいっしょに仕事してないな

I don't recall Kinki Kids working together that much anymore, so I don't think it will be a problem even if they broke up

291： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:53:38.29 0 ID:

あんだけグループ抱えてるのに
よくあんだけ売上維持出来るもんだと思うわ
今普通に過去最高レベルだろ

I honestly think that it's pretty amazing for them to keep up their sales despite having all these different groups. I even think this is their all time high.

292： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:53:41.99 0 ID:

TOKIOは番組なくなったらどうなるん

What'll happen to TOKIO if they lose all their programs

294： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:54:14.39 0 ID:

ダッシュ村に住めばいい

They should just live in DASH village

308： p17139-ipngn401aobadori.miyagi.ocn.ne.jp 2013/04/22(月) 16:57:31.63 0 ID:

ＳＭＡＰはこうやってマネすればいいっていう形を示してしまったけど
結果的に個性がなければマネしても無駄ってことを嵐が示したね

SMAP created this blueprint of someone that you should try to emulate, but it seems that Arashi has shown that there's no point in emulating if each member doesn't have his own character.

311： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/04/22(月) 16:59:19.20 0 ID:

嵐って立ち位置スマップと真逆だよ

I think Arashi is in a completely opposite position compared to SMAP

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