(Summarized)
The Japanese comic world has indeed played a major role in promoting sports, and its influence is boundless. Many people truly believe that Captain Tsubasa, among others, has helped enlighten the public and develop what was then a sport that was relatively minor in Japan -- soccer.
Japanese sports comics are generally divided into two, "ball games" and "combative sports", with the mangas Kyojin no Hoshi (baseball) and Ashita no Joe (boxing) starting the trend.
Japan has a lot of baseball and soccer comics, followed by tennis with titles such as Aozora Standby, Prince of Tennis and Sho no Densetsu. These led to the emergence of tennis players such as Shuzo Matsuoka, Kimiko Date-Krumm, and Kei Nishikori.
For badminton, there's Ichiban!!, Yamato no hane, and Smash!
Volleyball has Perfect Match and Attack No.1, while basketball not only has Slam Dunk, but also HI5, DRAGON JAM, and BUZZER BEATER.
Source: http://www.recordchina.co.jp/group.php?groupid=82244
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/fbn_2chfootball/imgs/5/e/5eb63aa8-s.jpg
The Japanese comic world has indeed played a major role in promoting sports, and its influence is boundless. Many people truly believe that Captain Tsubasa, among others, has helped enlighten the public and develop what was then a sport that was relatively minor in Japan -- soccer.
Japanese sports comics are generally divided into two, "ball games" and "combative sports", with the mangas Kyojin no Hoshi (baseball) and Ashita no Joe (boxing) starting the trend.
Japan has a lot of baseball and soccer comics, followed by tennis with titles such as Aozora Standby, Prince of Tennis and Sho no Densetsu. These led to the emergence of tennis players such as Shuzo Matsuoka, Kimiko Date-Krumm, and Kei Nishikori.
For badminton, there's Ichiban!!, Yamato no hane, and Smash!
Volleyball has Perfect Match and Attack No.1, while basketball not only has Slam Dunk, but also HI5, DRAGON JAM, and BUZZER BEATER.
Source: http://www.recordchina.co.jp/group.php?groupid=82244
Err, is there really anyone who started playing tennis because of Sho no Densetsu?
http://www.suruga-ya.jp/database/pics/game/wk311.jpg
龍だ！見事な龍だ！
Handoshuusokujinhou!
It's a dragon! Such a magnificent dragon!
http://articleimage.nicoblomaga.jp/image/139/2013/9/f/9f3b5bc86b56763e955d4cdd22b3e9936fc494081381068174.jpg
There's no mistake that Sho no Densetsu had zero contributions to the tennis world
記者は１００％漫画オタクだな
What a manic article.
The writer must be a manga otaku, 100%.
There's buzz that Captain Tsubasa has an amazing head-body ratio
http://articleimage.nicoblomaga.jp/image/34/2013/a/4/a40e69c59d9333e6a0e3a8b7238e9bd16b2752001366857830.jpg
- 210: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 07:11:55.97 ID:etkQSHtj0
- >>15スタバで買ったばかりのコーヒー盛大に吹きました
I just spat the Starbucks coffee that I just bought magnificently
- 249: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 08:11:05.45 ID:0d4MP15E0
- >>15サッカーの女子高校選手権の時にそんな体型のGKが居た気がする。
I think there was a goalie who had that kind of figure at the girls' high school soccer tournament.
最近でいうと黒子もだけど
なんでバスケ漫画はヒットしてもスポーツの人気に結びつかないんだろう
Slam Dunk's enormous popularity did not translate to the popularity of basketball, though.
And recently, that's also true with Kuroko.
Why doesn't basketball become popular even if the manga becomes a hit?
- 22: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 03:27:33.98 ID:EXbC1pAOO
- >>18一応スラムダンク世代なら田臥がいたが背が足りなかった
黒バスは女が熱狂しすぎてて男子は憧れる要素が微妙
From the Slam Dunk generation, there was Tabuse, but he wasn't blessed with height.
For Kuroko's Basket, girls are going ga-ga about it while there's little appeal to boys.
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/entamepeep-pirori2ch/imgs/a/e/ae46934d.jpg
- 277: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 09:23:13.29 ID:M8OjMGH60
- >>22そう言うといかにも体格の壁に跳ね返されたようだが
背以前にNBAでプレーするだけの基礎的な技術が足りないと言われた ＞田臥
You make it sound like he just wasn't able to surpass the physical hurdle, but it was already said before that it wasn't just the height; Tabuse lacked the fundamental skills to play in the NBA.
If you're talking about tennis comics, there's Ace wo nerae, and Nishikori probably was from the TeniPuri generation.
Well, it's hard to imagine Nishikori looking up to TeniPuri, though.
キャプテン翼がスゴすぎてがんばれキッカーズはあまり話しに出てこないが
イレブンとかかっとび一斗は月刊誌だからあんまり少年に読まれてないか
Captain Tsubasa and Ganbare Kickers definitely increased the sporting population.
Captain Tsubasa was just so damn amazing and that basically overshadowed Ganbare Kickers, though.
Eleven and and Kattobi Itto were in monthly comics so it wasn't read that much by the young boys, I guess.
- 88: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 04:00:35.98 ID:4hpyefL40
- >>26「コスモストライカー」ディスってんの？
Are you dissing Cosmos Striker?
http://www.geocities.jp/tsukasa_kaikoh/images/cosmos.jpeg
I'm amazed that Yoichi Takahashi conquered the world with drawing skills like that
重要なのはスポーツを目指す人が歩んでいける道作りだと思うよ
つまり政府や地方自治体が環境をある程度は作ってあげないと難しいだろうね
少なくてもキャプテン翼さえあれば勝手に育つというものでは無いだろうなぁ
There might be people who would set their goals after reading the manga, but I think what's important is that these have been paving the way for people who want to do sports.
Which means that realizing those dreams will be difficult unless the government and local municipalities provide them with an ample environment to do so.
It's not like people will start developing just because of the existence of Captain Tsubasa.
とくに巧妙な密室トリックが行われた殺人事件が起きたというニュースも聞かないし。
I've heard of people being influenced by manga and start doing things, but I've never heard of people who were influenced by novels. Especially murders in secluded areas that make use of ingenious tricks and such.
- 51: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 03:39:22.93 ID:7NJTio20O
- >>47最後はトリック明かされて捕まってるのにチャレンジするやる奴いるかよw
Will there really be someone who'd try out the same thing in a book where the trick has already been revealed? w
- 185: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 06:13:38.27 ID:DP/Kgjan0
- >>47でも、クライムのベル参考にした犯罪とかあった記憶があるなあ。
クライムノベルを原作にして作ったドラマだったか？
事件起こした数日前にそう言うドラマを放送してたとか、
メモ帳みたいなものに、犯罪のプロットが書いてあって、それが何かの小説そっくりだたとか。
まあ、漫画は直感的にわかるのに対して
小説は読んで理解するって言うステップが一個多いんだよな。
漢字読めないとか、読む以前の段階で躓く奴もいるしｗ
But I do recall some crimes in the past which were based on crime novels.
I think there was a drama based on a crime novel, and something about that drama being shown a few days prior to the actual crime itself, and that the plan of the crime which was written in some sort of memo pad looked exactly like what happened in the novel.
Well, compared to manga which the reader can intuitively understand, you still have to read and understand the novels first. There's like an added step. There are also some people who'd already stumble before reading it, since they can't read the kanji characters.
The manga Ace of Diamond that's published in Magazine is pretty good
- 79: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 03:54:38.80 ID:SGZ0NUKi0
- >>49今ははじめの一歩化したなと感じる
序盤から中盤は面白い
I feel like it's become like Hajime no Ippo recently.
The first part towards the middle was good.
But Captain Tsubasa was never even talked about anymore in our generation
They should do something about some of the plays in the manga, like Taichi Nakanishi's "I'm having that golden right foot of yours!" towards the beginning
http://blog-imgs-55.fc2.com/s/i/t/sititenbattousai/20130120044215d6f.jpg
今でもたまに旗づつみを狙ったりするわ
The reason I started playing golf was because of Pro Golfer Saru.
Even up to now, I still try to aim for the flag when I take a shot.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517lNlpuBGL.jpg
キャプ翼はブラジル帰りが夢をもたせた
But Slam Dunk gave so much emphasis on rebounds, even if there's no way that a guy like that would come out of Japan.
For Captain Tsubasa, going back to Brazil gave the readers hope.
http://img5.blogs.yahoo.co.jp/ybi/1/48/85/tetsuta5/folder/1463788/img_1463788_41061024_0
それをすべて無駄にしたのがプロリーグのアホアホ協会
未だにまとめることもできないのが現状
Basketball's popularity was through the roof during the height of Slam Dunk's fame.
All of that was put to waste by the pro league's stupid association.
Reality is that they still couldn't get their act straight up to now.
- 82: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 03:55:34.13 ID:k+PNPZfoi
- >>68バスケ協会「仕事増えるからスラムダンクは超迷惑なんだよ！！！」
こういう奴らだからな。お役所仕事でバスケへの愛着なし。マジ腐ってるわな。
Basketball Association: "Slam Dunk is nothing but trouble since it just increases our work!!!"
That's how they are. They're just administration officers who have no love for basketball. That's really rotten.
スポーツ好きな国民性だからスポーツ漫画が流行るのよ
Sorry, but it's the other way around.
People here in Japan love sports, and that's why sports mangas become popular.
少年ファッションにも革命起こしたアニメだからな。
日本での若林のアディダス帽はジョーダンバッシュの比じゃねーぞ
Captain Tsubasa's also an anime that revolutionized boy's fashion, as over half of those kids who wore baseball caps suddenly started wearing Adidas caps.
You can't even compare those Jordan sneakers to the amount of adidas caps in Japan thanks to Wakabayashi.
http://sug.s74.xrea.com/blog/archives/wyt6.jpg
- 90: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 04:01:19.04 ID:n6+QosxF0
- >>76当時のadidas帽は今でも実家の父が被ってるw
My Adidas cap from back in the day is still worn by my old man back home w
There are these many badminton mangas?
Takahashi will just turn into the soccer world's Mizushima, so stop overpraising him
- 96: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 04:07:50.41 ID:i3wb3oDs0
- >>94もうなってるわ
He already is
これは無さそうだが、実はゴルゴ13でやってる
これ豆な
Archery mangas.
There doesn't seem to be a lot of this, but it's actually done in Golgo 13.
A bit of trivia for you guys.
スラムダンクはバスケ人気には繋がったけど強化の部分では協会がアホで活かされなかった
野球はキャプテンよりドカベンの方が影響力あったのかな？
影響力という意味ではそこまで有名じゃないけど内村航平を産み出したガンバflyHiが凄いけど
Captain Tsubasa's influence not only in Japan, but to the entire soccer world, has been massive.
Slam Dunk led to basketball becoming popular, but the stupid association didn't do it any favors as it did not develop.
For baseball, I think Dokaben was more influential than Captain?
There's also Gamba! FlyHigh! which isn't that popular, but influenced and gave birth to someone like Kōhei Uchimura.
http://olii-yuusaku.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/images/2012/08/02/photo.jpg
地球代表がどうたらこうたらってやつ
子供に人気あるんかいな
Nowadays, there's this similar soccer anime that they're showing, about Earth representatives or whatnot.
Is it popular with the kids?
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/widappy/imgs/2/9/297e0269.jpg
とかでヒットしてフランスのバレーボール協会から
選手増加に貢献したって表彰されたアタッカーＹＯＵ
There's also this manga called Attacker YOU! which didn't become a huge hit in Japan, but did in France and Italy which actually contributed to the increase in France's volleyball population, and even received an award from France's volleyball association
http://kazumiyabi.sakura.ne.jp/anime1/1092286317.jpg
ワールドカップを目指すとか最初の頃から書いてあったけど
当時の俺は日本にはムリだよと思ってたわ
Captain Tsubasa's influence was seriously huge.
Even at the beginning of the manga, they stated their goal of reaching the World Cup which even I thought would be impossible for Japan at that time.
Every little kid who got into soccer because of Captain Tsubasa, without exception, would have gotten disappointed once they see real football matches w
- 116: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/27(月) 04:25:50.86 ID:DXclzW+V0
- >>114キャプ翼始まった頃はまだスペース結構あって
それほど失望しないですんだよ
マラドーナの５人抜きとかキャプ翼開始より
後だし
There was still a lot more space when Captain Tsubasa started and I didn't get disappointed as much.
Even Maradona's run through 5 defenders came after that.
- 126: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 04:34:42.59 ID:6EsEaHcLO
- >>116俺は結構がっかりしたよ。
さすがにボールが燃えるとかゴールネットが破れるとかないだろくらいは思ってたが、
もっとアクロバティックなスポーツだって先入観持っちゃってたから。
どーでもいいが、人気面でいまだにこれを超えるサッカー漫画ないのってどうなんだろう…
I remember getting pretty disappointed.
I did think that there's no way that balls would go on fire or goal nets would get torn, but I had this prejudice that it was more of an acrobatic sport.
And what can you say about the fact that not a single soccer manga has surpassed it up to now...
- 130: 名無し募集中。。。 2014/01/27(月) 04:38:50.61 ID:DXclzW+V0
- >>126マジかいやｗ
ていうかキャプ翼始まってもサッカー見る機会
って高校サッカーかテレビ東京の３０分の
サッカー番組ぐらいしかなかったがｗ
勝利への脱出ってサッカー映画はあったな
Really? w
But even when Captain Tsubasa began, the only chances we had to watch soccer was either highschool soccer matches or TV Tokyo's 30 minute soccer program. Well, there was this soccer movie called Escape to Victory back then, though.
- 134: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 04:42:54.57 ID:5SiEFf/R0
- >>130勝利への脱出を見てまさか実際の試合で
あそこまで露骨に偏った判定なんかあるわけないと思った人は結構いただろうな
自分もそう思ってたよ、2002年の韓国対スペインを見るまでは・・・
I think there were quite a lot of people who saw that movie and thought that such a blatantly biased referee doesn't exist in real life. Even I thought that way... until the Korea vs. Spain match in 2002...
- 123: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 04:30:51.99 ID:5SiEFf/R0
- >>114さすがにあれと現実を比べて失望されても困るわｗ
ラフプレーとかはキャプ翼の方がはるかにえげつないからな
You shouldn't get disappointed when comparing something like that to reality w
Especially the dirty plays, those things are worse in Captain Tsubasa.
What about the fact the we have no mangas at all about winter sports?
- 122: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 04:30:35.47 ID:Q03mS9g/0
- >>120陽一先生はノルディックのジャンプマンガも描いてるよ。
読んだことないけど。
Yoichi Sensei also did a Nordic jump manga.
Never read it, though.
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/fbn_2chfootball/imgs/7/e/7e5304a5.jpg
- 129: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 04:38:21.19 ID:6EsEaHcLO
- >>120あることはあるけど、メジャーなのは思い付かんな。
割と続いたのだとエルフェンリートの人が描いてたジャンプのやつくらい？
Well, there are but I can't think of any major ones.
I think the one that's lasted is the one in Jump which was done by the person who did Elfen Lied?
http://blog-imgs-31-origin.fc2.com/h/u/m/humizukiblog/nononono1.gif
- 131: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 04:39:34.50 ID:DX3lId1r0
- >>120フィギュアスケート漫画をジャンプで連載してほしい
男子なら荒木飛呂彦、女子なら河下水希の作画で
I hope Jump publishes a figure-skating manga.
If it's a man, it should be drawn by Hirohiko Araki, and if it's a woman, it should be done by Mizuki Kawashita.
- 205: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 07:00:54.60 ID:dQnn2Fss0
- >>120銀盤王子（フィギュア
超イケメンだけどガチヲタの男子スケーターが、
幼馴染みの唱える魔女っ子の呪文で四回転飛べるようになる話
Ginban Ouji (Figure)
A super ikemen/otaku skater gets to do a quadruple spin thanks to the spell cast on him by his childhood friend
あれが好きだったやつ高校行ったら見事に暴走族入りやがったぞ
漫画の影響はでかい
Remember Bukkomi no Taku?
People who liked that went on to become gang riders when they went to high school.
Manga's influence really is huge.
http://regolithxmanga.com/images/t208-2.jpg
- 133: 名無しさん＠恐縮です 2014/01/27(月) 04:42:46.22 ID:nR29DyGZ0
- >>125それ言い出すと、ビー・バップ・ハイスクールの影響たるや・・・ｗ
I think that's more of Be-Bop Highschool's influence... w
Should be Ganbare Kickers
http://business.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/world/20070926/135915/
＞1996年、中国で「スラムダンク」がテレビ放映された辺りから、中国における日本アニメブームは全盛期を迎えるようになっていた
＞中国全土で史上空前のバスケット熱が巻き起こり、中学、高校、大学と、どのキャンパスでもバスケに夢中になる若者たちが激増した。
＞80年代から90年代にかけて、アジア、ヨーロッパで人気を獲得したサッカー漫画「キャプテン翼」も中国でのサッカー熱を招いたが、
＞「スラムダンク」の熱気には到底及ばない
～
＞こうした「スラムダンク」人気は、中国の実際のバスケットボールの世界を変えていった。日本を遙かに上回るバスケブームが起きたのだ
What Slam Dunk has brought to China
http://business.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/world/20070926/135915/
The Japanese anime boom reached its peak in China when Slam Dunk began airing there in 1996. An unprecedented basketball fever swept the entire nation, as countless youths were all crazy about basketball, from grade school, middle school, high school, and college.
Captain Tsubasa which was popular in Asia and Europe from the '80s to the '90s was also a hit in China, but it was nothing compared to Slam Dunk's fame.
And Slam Dunk has actually changed China's basketball world. A "basketball boom" far greater than what happened in Japan ensued.
I know of a guy who imitated Wakashimazu and suffered a huge injury
http://blog-imgs-53.fc2.com/t/o/m/tomboylovedaughter/1205271935.jpg
The move Sky Love Hurricane was officially banned in our school
http://tepcodan.c.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_c00/tepcodan/E382B9E382ABE382A4E383A9E38396E3838FE383AAE382B1E383BCE383B3.PNG%3Fc%3Da0
漫画に関してはサッカーより野球のほうがおもしろい
Can someone point me to a cool baseball manga?
Baseball mangas are better than soccer mangas.
I started getting into sports because of Nangoku Ice Hockey-bu and Inachu takkyu bu
http://www.88238.net/images/products/c/c4032.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51oeWUCDdGL._AA278_PIkin4,BottomRight,-41,22_AA300_SH20_OU09_.jpg
For Yoichi Takahashi, everything other than Captain Tsubasa flopped
中田:キャプテン翼
俊輔:キャプテン翼
内田:スラムダンク
フェルナンド・トーレス:キャプテン翼
ラファエル・ナダル:ドラゴンボール
Honda: Fantasista, Captain Tsubasa
Nakata: Captain Tsubasa
Shunsuke: Captain Tsubasa
Uchida: Slam Dunk
Fernando Torres: Captain Tsubasa
Rafael Nadal: Dragonball
Looks like this writer has been reading a lot of Japanese mangas
Tezuka-san's influence really was huge
The manga that contributed to the development of soccer was Kick Off, yo.
But you can't help but think that it's also Captain Tsubasa's fault why we have a lot of midfielders, but we lack in forwards and defenders.
Shoot! was much more popular in my generation, though.
http://gamelive.jp/img/thread/information/shoot/%E4%BB%B2%E9%96%93%C3%97%E5%A5%87%E8%B7%A1%EF%BC%81%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A5%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88!.png
世間一般にサッカーというスポーツを知らしめた意義は大きいわ
Before Captain Tsubasa, people were like, "Soccer? What's that? Does that taste good?"
Making the sport called soccer known to the general public was huge.
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