Tuesday, August 6, 2013

What's the truth behind Izumi Sakai of ZARD's death?


本名：蒲池幸子（かまち さちこ）
生年月日：1967年2月6日

2007年5月27日、癌闘病中に、階段からの転落による脳挫傷が原因で死去。享年40歳。
Real name: Sachiko Kamachi
Birthdate: February 6, 1967

 She died due to brain contusion after falling from the stairs of the hospital while she was fighting against cancer.
She passed away at the age of 40.

http://blog-imgs-14-origin.fc2.com/h/e/a/heartattack507/07052801_Izumi_Sakai_01.jpg
    4： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 15:47:59.41 0 ID:
    病気を苦にした自殺でしょ
    お前らも病気になれば分かるよ
    I think it's suicide because of her sufferings with her disease.
    You guys will understand it too once you get sick.
    8： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 15:50:47.69 0 ID:
    鬱とか自殺とかの問題ってやたらマスコミは避けるな
    The media really tries to avoid these issues concerning depression and suicides
    9： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 15:51:48.73 0 ID:
    今更蒸し返さないで公式発表道理で良いだろ
    No need to bring this up again now. Just leave the official statement as is.
    11： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 15:54:07.75 0 ID:
    一時的な精神状態による事故もしくは飛び降りだろうけど
    どっちか決めた所でどうなんだってとこだろ
    It must have been an accident due to a momentary change in her mental condition, or she just jumped off.
    So how about it if we come up with a conclusion here?
    14： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 16:30:10.49 0 ID:
    階段の手すりに座ってて
    後ろ向きに落ちたんじゃなかったっけ
    Didn't she sit on the handrails of the stairs then fell down, back-first?

    http://blog.nikkansports.com/nikkansports/newspaper/archives/img/paper070529.jpg
    16： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 16:39:02.17 0 ID:
    あと１年だか２年我慢出来れば助けられた病気だったんだろもったいなかったな
    Too bad, she could have been saved if only she withstood it for another year or 2.
    18： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 16:50:09.84 0 ID:
    状況からして自殺だろ
    Based on the circumstances, it must have been suicide
    21： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 16:55:24.23 0 ID:
    あの高さは微妙じゃないか
    死んじゃうかもなーみたいな未必の事故死か
    Don't you think that height is pretty questionable?
    It's 'you might or might not die' from that sort of height so it must have been an accident.

    あの高さは微妙じゃないか死んじゃうかもなーみたいな未必の事故死か
    http://img.pics.livedoor.com/007/4/a/4a6df83ef1912104ef07-LL.jpg
    23： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 16:58:40.03 0 ID:
    2メートルから落ちて死亡
    過去の芸能人の低さ最高記録保持者（それまではピグモン勝田の3メートル）

    逆に高さの最高記録保持者は沖雅也の47階
    She fell down 2 meters and died. That's the lowest height recorded for a celebrity (up until then, it was Pigmon Katsuta at 3m).
    The highest record a celebrity fell down from and died is Masaya Oki's 47 floors.

    http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/62/0c/a1fc9375d14cf20fd98c67cb7fef21dc.jpg
    29： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 17:02:13.59 0 ID:
    >>23
    沖はその高さから落ちても顔には傷ひとつ無かったとか
    I heard that Oki fell from that height and didn't have a single scar on his face
    24： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 16:58:49.07 0 ID:
    遺書残して計画的に死ぬのと違って
    突発的に押し寄せる精神状態で死ぬのは違うだろ
    後者は自分の意志で止められる物じゃないよ
    Planning your own death while leaving behind a will is different from dying due to a sudden surge of mental instability. The latter isn't something that you can stop with your own will.
    26： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 17:00:17.46 0 ID:
    事故を装った自殺
    It's suicide that was made to look like an accident
    27： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 17:01:24.62 0 ID:
    あんな手すりに座る時点で自殺を意識してただろ
    The moment she sat on those rails, she was already probably thinking about suicide

    http://img.news-us.jp/japan/entame/img1209_s02.jpg
    30： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 17:06:31.44 O ID:
    生きた証として音楽が後の世にも残るってのは素晴らしいな
    It's wonderful though that her music will live on until the next generations as proof that she once lived.
    35： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 17:34:55.13 0 ID:
    第一次安倍内閣の農水大臣自殺と同じ日だったのは偶然だよね
    Her death was coincidentally on the same day as the suicide of the minister of Agriculture, Forestry, and Fisheries from the first cabinet of Shinzo Abe 
    38： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 17:45:09.97 0 ID:
    >>35
    その人が運ばれたのも慶応病院だったからマスコミたちですごかったらしいな
    That person was also brought to the Keio hospital so there really was an immense number of media there at that time.
    36： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 17:36:36.21 0 ID:
    自殺の9割以上は他殺
    90% of suicides are murder
    37： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 17:39:36.43 0 ID:
    自殺の9割は自殺だろ
    行方不明者の何割かは間違いなく他殺だけど
    90% of suicides are suicide.
    A certain percentage of the people gone missing are undoubtedly murder cases though
    39： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/02/16(土) 17:50:35.63 0 ID:
    憶測で言っちゃ悪いけど
    なんか見ちゃったのかと思いたくなるな
    Sorry if this is just speculation, but I want to think that maybe she saw something
    2： マジックインキ(茨城県) 2010/02/09(火) 18:55:28.20 ID:DTJbt0Ea
    ヤリ●ン病がどうのこうの
    Didn't she have this sex addiction?
    3： レーザーポインター(富山県) 2010/02/09(火) 18:55:31.38 ID:Bth8OMIF
    何を言うたんや！
    What the hell did you just say!?
    10： ヌッチェ(鹿児島県) 2010/02/09(火) 18:56:58.08 ID:+LPsYVUd
    自殺じゃないの
    Isn't it suicide?
    16： マイクロメータ(アラバマ州) 2010/02/09(火) 19:02:27.52 ID:kkPu6rrI
    蒲池幸子時代のハイレグにはお世話になりました
    I was indebted to her hi-leg days as Sachiko Kamachi

    http://blog-imgs-41-origin.fc2.com/k/o/i/koipetengoku/20090628221350569.jpg
    19： 烏口(京都府) 2010/02/09(火) 19:04:24.60 ID:g5Mp5jf5
    うつ発作だろ
    あまりの苦しさに、飛び降りたくなるらしいよ
    Must be a depression attack.
    She probablty felt the urge to jump because of the suffering.
    22： ろう石(長屋) 2010/02/09(火) 19:05:12.01 ID:+bhP/Eos
    闘病生活続けてると生きるのがつらくなるからな
    これは仕方ないことだよ
    It gets hard to continue living on when you're fighting against an ailment.
    This one can't be helped.
    24： スプーン(東京都) 2010/02/09(火) 19:05:24.91 ID:F4NsW6qQ
    コンクリに２Mの高さから後頭部モロ打ちしたら普通に死ぬレベル
    It will really kill you if you hit the back of your head on concrete after falling down from a height of 2m.
    25： 砂鉄(静岡県) 2010/02/09(火) 19:05:36.29 ID:n+XmXoXh
    蒲池幸子には、お世話になったなぁ
    Sachiko Kamachi really took care of me before, if you know what I mean

    http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517uL7ytdfL.jpg
    26： オーブン(関西地方) 2010/02/09(火) 19:06:46.58 ID:cJUmRY3p
    ただの自殺だろ？
    It's just suicide, right?
    28： 鏡(四国地方) 2010/02/09(火) 19:07:25.93 ID:yR5rTEgE
    アーティストとかいうのって若死にすれば評価されるからいいよね
    Artists have it good since they get higher recognition when they die young
    29： 厚揚げ(dion軍) 2010/02/09(火) 19:07:59.67 ID:FFfcD1uh
    アイドルに毛が生えたようなもんに感じてたが…死んだら神格化がすごいよね…
    I felt that she was just slightly better than your average idol... it's amazing how you're suddenly elevated to legendary status when you die
    35： 夫婦茶碗(アラバマ州) 2010/02/09(火) 19:12:45.35 ID:j0qdL4gS
    大黒摩季がどうのこうの
    Was it about Maki Ohguro or something?

    40： ホールピペット(大阪府) 2010/02/09(火) 19:14:28.34 ID:mR2acWLN
    肺がんまで患ってんだよな
    She even suffered from lung cancer, right?
    41： インク(神奈川県) 2010/02/09(火) 19:14:47.16 ID:7G6Ued6D
    2、3メートルの所から落ちたんだっけか。自殺ではないわな
    But she only fell from a place 2, 3 meters high. It probably isn't suicide
    42： しらたき(関西地方) 2010/02/09(火) 19:14:54.48 ID:us6jmSiW
    散歩スレだかで当日早朝にザードの歌が聞こえてきたって書き込みがあったけど
    あれは本当だったのかね
    I saw on a thread about walking or somewhere that someone heard a ZARD song early that morning. I wonder if that was true.
    47： 筆箱(東京都) 2010/02/09(火) 19:18:11.72 ID:vU6BWEi7
    ドラゴンボールGTのオープニングの曲ってこの人が書いたんだってな
    最近知ったわ
    This person wrote the opening song for Dragonball GT, right? I only found out about that recently.

    49： 印章(関西地方) 2010/02/09(火) 19:21:09.37 ID:Cuq94EuH
    自殺に決まってるだろ
    Of course it's suicide
    50： エビ巻き(アラバマ州) 2010/02/09(火) 19:21:19.84 ID:G2xUirgQ
    666:名無しさん＠七周年sage2007/05/28(月) 23:13:24 ID:e5+057660
    602 ：お散歩中だよ名無しさん＠路上ワーカー：2007/05 /26(土) 05:00:59 ID:zufgyfRe0
    ちょっと・・・・なんかきみわる・・・・・
    ZARDの曲歌ってる人がいる。こんな時間に
    病院の裏の広場なんだけど・・
    (From the Sanpo (walking) thread)
    May 26, 2007 - 05:00:59
    Wait a sec... this is creepy......
    Someone's singing a ZARD song at this time.
    I'm here at the open area behind the hospital...

    603 ：お散歩中だよ名無しさん＠路上ワーカー：2007/05 /26(土) 05:04:19 ID:EusfREIw0
    どこの病院？あんたも新大久保かい？
    May 26, 2007 - 05:04:19
    Which hospital? Are you also in Shin Okubo?

    604 ：お散歩中だよ名無しさん＠路上ワーカー：2007/05 /26(土) 05:07:37 ID:zufgyfRe0
    >>603
    ううん。慶大病院。なんかきれいな声なんだけどうつろな感じで、今にも消えそうな声で歌ってる。
    なんか恐いお。　今日はもうかえるお
    May 26, 2007 - 05:07:37
    No. Keio Hospital. It was a beautiful voice, but it felt sorrowful and sounds as if it's about to fade anytime.
    It's scary. I'm heading home.



    警視庁四谷署によると、坂井さんは入院先の慶応大病院（新宿区）で、２６日午前
    ５時４０分ごろ、病棟のらせん状のスロープ付近で倒れているのを通りがかった人が
    発見した。手当てを受けたが、２７日午後に死亡が確認された。同署では争った
    形跡がなく遺書もないことから、事故死と自殺の両面で調べている。
    According to the Yotsuya Police station's report, Sakai-san was found lying on the ground by a passer-by at around 5:40 on the 26th in the morning by the spiral slope outside the Keio University Hospital (Shinjuku). She received treatment, but was confirmed dead by the afternoon of the 27th. The police station found no traces of injury from fighting, nor a will, and are investigating both possibilities of suicide and death by accident.
    79： 封筒(神奈川県) 2010/02/09(火) 20:41:50.49 ID:x8+QkwLW
    >>50
    これは・・・
    This is...
    96： 原稿用紙(長屋) 2010/02/09(火) 23:00:52.81 ID:E+IAeaze
    >>50
    パソコン使いながらウォーキングしてるのか
    Were they using a laptop while walking?
    56： 昆布(中部地方) 2010/02/09(火) 20:04:40.64 ID:SR7JriiB
    正直コナンの主題歌歌ってる事くらいしか知らなかった
    Honestly, I only know them from the opening song of Conan

    58： カッター(栃木県) 2010/02/09(火) 20:06:26.51 ID:lNTgxouE
    鬼女の反応
    Reactions of the "Kijos"
    (Kijo=literally means she-devil but also refers to 2channels 既婚女性板 (kikon josei ita), or sub forum for married women)

    16 名前：可愛い奥様[] 投稿日：2007/05/28(月) 11:22:37 ID:pBGhyyRj0
    老ける前に伝説化するために死んだことにしたとか？
    Could she have died because she wanted to become a legend before she grew old?

    55 名前：可愛い奥様[sage] 投稿日：2007/05/28(月) 11:34:23 ID:Ad3xzMKn0
    結局、真の逆境になると逃げるんだな。
    So when she was faced with adversity, she just ran away from it, huh

    57 名前：可愛い奥様[] 投稿日：2007/05/28(月) 11:34:33 ID:eGOQzlxuO
    ｻﾞｰﾄﾞて結構濃いヲタファン多いよね
    後追い出そうな悪寒
    ZARD has some pretty die-hard wota fans, right?
    I get this bad feeling that some will follow her example

    125 名前：可愛い奥様[sage] 投稿日：2007/05/28(月) 11:53:44 ID:Ad3xzMKn0
    自殺なのだったら、自身が負けてるんじゃん。
    If it's suicide, then that means she admits her loss

    136 名前：可愛い奥様[sage] 投稿日：2007/05/28(月) 11:58:29 ID:rQ6DtMOF0
    負けないで（笑）
    "Makenaide" (LOL) (don't lose)

    179 名前：可愛い奥様[sage] 投稿日：2007/05/28(月) 12:13:10 ID:DO88zHuU0
    ああいう暗そうでまじめそうな感じの人って、裏ではすごいよね。
    わざと作ってたんだろうか。
    She seemed so gloomy and serious, but she must have had a lot of things going on for her 
    66： ろうと台(岐阜県) 2010/02/09(火) 20:09:41.18 ID:pz9eEy6w
    >>58
    湧いて出てくるからうわさしちゃダメ！
    No, don't talk about the residents of that board, or else they'll swarm us!
    82： 原稿用紙(dion軍) 2010/02/09(火) 20:46:19.69 ID:k6/Eiwgt
    >>58
    まあ 2ch としては普通の反応だと思うけど、なんか凄い
    Well, I think those are pretty normal responses for 2chan standards, but it's still.. wow.
    62： 印章(埼玉県) 2010/02/09(火) 20:06:59.64 ID:8ONcmCcf
    坂井泉水「息もできない」
    Izumi Sakai: "I can't even breathe"
    63： 首輪(埼玉県) 2010/02/09(火) 20:07:43.71 ID:+A/xhL7M
    表に出れないくらい劣化したからでしょう
    Her looks have probably detriorated so much that she didn't want to go public anymore
    68： ろうと台(東京都) 2010/02/09(火) 20:16:52.23 ID:Yt9xYcWu
    倉木麻衣とかもいつの日か飛んだりするんかね？
    I wonder if Mai Kuraki would jump off too one day

    http://image.news.livedoor.com/newsimage/w/g/wg130_2008021305_01.jpg
    70： はさみ(兵庫県) 2010/02/09(火) 20:18:16.15 ID:sHFZqc62
    自殺だと思います。おそらく。
    I think it's suicide. Most likely.
    78： 電卓(山口県) 2010/02/09(火) 20:39:58.25 ID:zPC0/qI6
    zardは結構良い歌が有るから聞いていたよ
    I used to listen to ZARD since they did have some pretty nice songs
    80： 昆布(東京都) 2010/02/09(火) 20:42:10.43 ID:0VSexnsk
    バーニングだっけ
    She was with Burning, right?
    85： エリ(埼玉県) 2010/02/09(火) 20:49:34.52 ID:SD8WCQkZ
    「心を開いて」はスルメ曲
    "Kokoro wo hiraite" is a song that grows on you

    86： カッターナイフ(福岡県) 2010/02/09(火) 20:50:47.64 ID:IReuBapb
    心を開いては名曲
    "Kokoro wo hiraite" is a masterpiece

    87： 手錠(東日本) 2010/02/09(火) 20:51:21.11 ID:1V/1jim1
    いい詩だったなぁ・・・・。
    That really was a good song...
    100： ろう石(不明なsoftbank) 2010/02/10(水) 00:42:32.53 ID:quFpFiOa
    確かに心を開いては名曲だけどマイフレンド忘れんな
    "Kokoro wo hiraite" was a classic, yes, but don't forget about "My friend"

    106： ガムテープ(愛知県) 2010/02/10(水) 03:14:15.05 ID:AgdnQ8Qy
    ミュージシャンの死亡率国内外関係なくおかしいだろ

    売上落ちて「こいつもうダメだな」って判断されたら不審死させて最後の一稼ぎする商法ってありそうだな
    What's with this percentage of musicians dying? And it isn't just in this country, it's crazy!
    I kind of get the feeling that when the higher-ups see the numbers and decide, "This one's no good anymore", they kill off that artist to increase sales of the records for one last time.
    116： 猿轡(関東・甲信越) 2010/02/10(水) 04:03:21.09 ID:Omql/uX5
    >>106
    死亡する前年に出したベストは50万枚近く売れたしまずないだろ

    しかし当時東京住んでたら自分も真相調査に病院行ったのになぁ
    死亡して報道されるまで一日空いてて変だなって思ってた
    But their "Best of" album which was released before she died still sold 500,000 copies, so that's not the case here. 
    But when I was staying in Tokyo at that time, I went to the hospital to try and investigate the facts.
    I did find it weird that there was a day since the time she died until it was reported.


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