On the contrary, it seems that dōjinshis have been doing relatively well. The Comic Market, or better known as the Comiket, which is held twice a year in summer and in winter, is the world's biggest dōjinshi marketplace. The Comic Market 83 which was held at Tokyo Big Sight from December 29 to 31 was attended by a total of 550,000 people for 3 days -- the record attendance for the winter edition of the event. According to a past study, the average amount each male attendee spends on merchandise is \33,740 while females spend \30,100. It is estimated that the 3-day event has an economic effect of over \15 billion. It seems that the outlook of the dōjinshi market is relatively bright, as the Japanese dream of "being a popular manga artist and have a huge mansion built" is still well and alive.
But the sad reality is that only a handful of professional anime and game creators get to earn 10~100 million annually. The basic pay a newbie manga artist receives is around \4,000 to \6,000 per manuscript for a Shojo manga while it's \5,000 to \8,000 for a shonen and young adult manga. It's also common for a semi-popular manga artist who has a regular manga in a popular manga magazine to only be earning around \2 million a year. There's no way these people will be able to have houses built with that amount.
But on the contrary, there are a lot of dōjin mangakas who earn over 10 million a year. This is because their mangas are sold directly; the mangaka may have to shoulder the printing and shipping costs, but without publishers and distributors in the way, almost all the profit go to the artist himself.
And since the sales figures are not made public, there are also some who fake their taxes. There was actually a dōjin mangaka who was busted in 2007 for not declaring his true income. He earned \200 million for 3 years, but only declared 20 million in earnings. He was arrested for evading taxes that amounted to \67.5 million.
Even through simple calculation, this mangaka earned \66.6 million a year. Even most presidents of major, first-rate companies do not earn this much. And what's more surprising is that there were over 300 mangakas who earn on a similar level, or even higher, at the Comiket.
Just how many manga artists are earning over 60 million a year, even as commercial manga magazines have been disappearing? It's just natural that there are more mangakas who haven't been making their magazine debut, and are just settling to go on with dōjinshis.
Becoming uber rich while making porno versions of the characters that other people have created!
Are they really earning more than professional mangakas who have an ongoing series?
If this gets out of hand, prepare yourselves, arrests and restrictions will be coming your way
If the mangaka can make profits through self publication, then there's no reason for him to go through an official publisher.
They're saying that there are a lot of these artists? But how many do you think is the total population of these artists?
This just goes to show how much the publishers are earning from this business
- 同人誌って売れてる漫画をパクってエロ漫画にしてるんだろ？その上脱税とか、ゴミ屑みたいな連中だな。But dōjinshis are the ones that copy the popular mangas and apply sexual themes, right?
And they're evading tax on top of that? Those people must are really scum.
But on the flipside, this also means that this is the end of the road for a dōjin mangaka
Do things like these really sell well?
They should pay back some amount to the author of the work that they copied
Well, it also means that since the good and popular artists are going for dōjin, there are a lot of other mangakas and illustrators getting jobs in commercial mangas. And if dōjins get eradicated from the world for some reason and all these artists head on over to commercial mangas, I get the feeling that there will also be a lot of people who will cease to get jobs.
- 原作者より稼いでたりするのか‥なんかおかしいねWhich means that these people may be earning more than the original creators of the characters...
Now that's weird.
- 儲けているのは一握りで、9割以上は利益どころか赤字と何度も言われてなかったっけ？Didn't they say that only a handful is making money, while 90% are incurring more losses than profit?
- コミケ の同人誌って何割がエロなの？
What percentage of the dōjinshis at the Comiket are adult-themed?
- 「お前の父さんなにやってんの？」「なんか作家だって」「へーすごいじゃん。何書いてんの？」「よく知らない。絵本だってさ」1:"What does your daddy do?"
2:"He's an artist or something."
1:"Hehh, that's amazing. What does he draw?"
2:"I'm not sure. He said it's some sort of picture book."
Then maybe I should do it too.
If you know how publishers treat the newbie mangakas, then you'd definitely go through this path if you're confident that you can earn with your drawings w
100% of the dōjinshis that are doing well are all based on something else, and are just 2D porn. They're people who can't draw anything without an original to base on.
They're not amateurs, they're more like professionals who aren't with commercial manga magazines
I'm so jealous so I hope they all get arrested and their money get taken away from them
- なんか不思議だな売れてる人はコミケでどんぐらい売るの？媒体もあるんでしょ？It's really mysterious.
Then just how many do the popular ones sell at the Comiket?
There still are physical copies right?
- そんな儲かるのかｗ俺もやろうかなあｗThey really earn that much? w
Maybe I should do it too w