On September 1's Iitomo, the footage of the after-show free-for-all discussions that took place after the August 26 episode was shown, where they started talking about the different idol groups.
Tamori: "MomoClo's much more amazing than AKB48."
Chihara Junior: "Perfume is amazing, I didn't realize 2 hours passed by so quickly while watching their live DVD."
Sashihara: "But what AKB does are 'idol dances'."
Masakazu Mimura commented on Tomomi Itano, whom she saw taking lessons: "Her thighs are amazing!". Sashihara said that Itano has been dancing since she was small, and used to be a back up dancer for EXILE.
Tamori then imitated the "Koi suru fortune cookie" dance step and said: "Compared with the others, this is only what you're doing".
Sashihara smiled and just said, "Thank you very much".
Junior commented on the dance: "That's just stretching!", to which Tamori symphatized: "It is just stretching". Sashihara told the 2:
"We're dancing properly! But it's true that the other idols are amazing."
- ハロプロは無視ですかそうですかIgnoring Hello! Pro now, are we?
- こんな正直な発言ができるってのはやっぱり辞めるからなんだなFor him to be able to say things so bluntly like this must really mean that he's retiring.
- perfume見てきたけど確かに凄いなさすがに2時間は無理だが10分ぐらいなら見れるわI watched Perfume, and it's true that they're amazing.
Though it'll be impossible for me to watch them for 2 hours, I'd be able to for 10 minutes.
- で、タモリさんは何か間違った事言ってんの？この記事はなにが言いたいの？So. Did Tamori say something wrong?
What is this article trying to say?
- タモさんMステでライブで見てるからなおさら違いとかわかってるでしょTamo-san sees all of these artists live on Music Station so he can definitely tell the difference
- ツイッターじゃなくて直接いうのは愛情だろ指原は結構美味しかったと思ってるはずだBut saying something like this personally to Sashihara and not through something like Twitter means he's showing his love for them.
Sashihara's probably thinking that this was a pretty good experience.
- じゃあ聞くけどPerfumeももクロはこんなダンスできるの？Then let me ask you guys, can Perfume or MomoClo dance like this?
- 正論じゃんThat's a sound argument
- 魅力はさておき高度な技術を必要としないという点では異論は無いわけだThe question of whether or not it has appeal aside, there are no objections to the fact that they do not require a high level of technical skill.
- パヒュームはスクールでダンスの上手い奴を選って作ったからＡＫＢと根本的に違うのよなBut the good dancers were chosen from schools to become Perfume members so they're basically different from AKB.
- 単純に「AKBは下手」でいいと思うんだけど他の2組に変な火の粉ふりかかるやんHe should have just said, "AKB's bad", and stopped. He'll just spread fire to the other 2 groups.
- 南こうせつが歌番組でブチキレてたぞ南こうせつ[誰とかとは言いませんけどね～最近多いじゃないですかあぁ！口パクとかね～ほんとね～許せないんですよ！！]Kosetsu Minami got extremely pissed in a music program.
Kosetsu Minami: "I won't say who, but there are really a lot of them these days! These lip-syncers~ seriously~ unforgivable!!"
- プロデューサーのレベルの違いモー娘→つんくももクロ→前山田健一パフューム→ナカタヤスタカＡＫＢ→秋元（笑）It all boils down to the producers
- 別にももクロもPerfumeも凄くないPerfumeに関しては回りを固めるスタッフが優秀なだけI don't think MomoClo or Perfume are that great.
In Perfume's case, I think it's the staff around them that are amazing.
- ダンスだけでａｋｂならゴウリキ姉さんのがマシ。If it's just dancing, I actually prefer big-sis Gouriki's moves
- Perfumeファンだけどあのダンスは3人で努力して練習を積み重ねたから綺麗に揃ってるのであって、ダンスそのものの難易度はそこまで高くないかとI'm a Perfume fan. Their dance looks beautiful because the 3 of them worked hard so they look pretty and synchronized. But the dance itself isn't that difficult.
- タモさんが褒めてるのはももクロだけじゃんパヒュームヲタ捏造するなよTamo-san's only praised MomoClo.
Perfume-wotas, stop making up stuff.
- ももクロなんかたいしたダンスしてないじゃん歌って踊れたSPEEDや安室に比べたらまだまだEven MomoClo aren't doing anything difficult.
You still can't compare them with SPEED and Namie Amuro who were able to sing and dance.
- ダンスのレベルがもう桁違いTheir dancing is on a different level
- アイドルダンス＝てきとうIdol dancing = random
- 別にAKB擁護するわけじゃないが昔のアイドルなんて左右にステップ踏むだけだったぞｗNot that I'm trying to stand up for AKB or anything, but idols of yesteryear only had to step left and right w
- E-girlsは話題に上がらなかったのかな？まだまだ知られてないのかねーSo E-girls isn't even mentioned?
So they're still not that popular?
- タモリが言ってること合ってるやん、そして炎上商法になるだけ。はい解散What Tamori said is true. And it's just being exaggerated.
Alright guys, nothing to see here.
- タモさんわかってるなTamo-san really knows his stuff
- AKBを話題にしていただいてありがとうございますｍ（＿＿）ｍこれからもAKBの宣伝よろしくお願い致しますｍ（＿＿）ｍThank you very much for talking about AKB ｍ（＿＿）ｍ
Please keep promoting AKB moving forward ｍ（＿＿）ｍ
- 正直、ダンスだけならK-POPの方が上だなWhen it comes to dancing, honestly, K-POP is better
- まぁ正論ですわねWell, he speaks of the truth
- こんなにわかりやすく偏った記事はなかなかお目にかかれないSuch an obvious and one-sided article like this is pretty rare
- 正論すぎるなNothing but the truth
- タモリがディスった恋するフォーチュンクッキーのダンス"Koi suru Fortune Cookie" dance which Tamori dissed
- Perfumeはすごいよなまじであのシンクロ感はそうとうストイックにレッスンしてるだろうなとBut Perfume's seriously amazing.
That kind of synchronization can only be achieved through rigorous training.
- 指原をいじってるだけじゃん指原もお笑いだからおいしいと思ってるだろHe's just messing up with Sashihara.
Sashihara's also a comedian so she must have liked that situation.
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