マジで!? MAJI DE!?: Was X Japan's hide really popular back then?

Wednesday, September 18, 2013

Was X Japan's hide really popular back then?

1：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:34:51.11 ID:QDJPXB6T

急死したから神格化されてるだけで

Or is he just being glorified because of his sudden death?

http://blog-imgs-12-origin.fc2.com/x/j/a/xjapan520316/hide3_20071213005631.jpg

5：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:35:55.40 ID:bcmFcufr

普通に有能だったで

He was actually pretty good

7：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:36:23.84 ID:UdVOiZGC

首吊りオ●ニーニキ

Hangman-mas+urbator (Related post HERE)

12：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:37:06.00 ID:Org3bitW

Ｘ、もといhideに憧れて音楽始めたけどアーティストとしては今でも尊敬してる

ギタリストとしてはうーん

I started getting into music because I idolized X, rather, hide. I still respect him now as an artist.
But as a guitarist... uhmmm...

http://pic.prepics-cdn.com/shin5648/20031174.jpeg

13：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:37:10.27 ID:x0X7FRDj

そろの曲が結構売れてた気がする

I think his solo songs sold well

17：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:37:51.65 ID:QDJPXB6T: >>13

死んだ後出したピンクスパイダーはミリオンいってる

まぁ急死特需な面もいなめない
Pink Spider went over a million units sold after his death.
Well, it's hard to overlook the fact that it seemed like it was just that sudden rise in demand because of his death.

14：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:37:19.79 ID:3F4A52fd

実際エックスは有名でも秀はそれほどしられてなかった

But in reality, X were popular but hide wasn't, right?

22：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:38:27.23 ID:ZeNgud86: >>14

お前、せめてライブCDでも聴けよ。

ヨシキの次に歓声でかいんやで？
At least listen to their live CD first.
The amount of applause he got was next only to Yoshiki, you know?

15：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:37:43.60 ID:+cTfmxVv

ロケットダイブでようやく売れ始めた時期やった

He finally sold well with his song "Rocket Dive"

19：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:38:10.24 ID:m1YVlvPs

Ｘの最後ら辺はyoshikiより人気あったような気がする

I feel he was even more popular than Yoshiki during the final days of X

http://pic.prepics-cdn.com/xjapan/7691552.jpeg

28：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:39:21.53 ID:QDJPXB6T: >>19

YOSHIKIは今でもXファンから人気なのがわからない

X解散時もグダグダだったのはYOSHIKIのせいじゃん

今でもアルバム出す出す詐欺やってるし
I don't get why YOSHIKI is still popular among X fans.
YOSHIKI was the reason why X were out of sorts when they disbanded, right?
And he's still lying about coming out with an album these days.

24：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:38:48.52 ID:aic+VbXa

toshiの人気ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

toshi's popularity wwwwwwww

http://x-japan.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Toshi.jpg

32：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:39:52.24 ID:QDJPXB6T: >>24

PATAより人気有るだろ（小声）

なおHeath
Well, he's more popular than PATA (whispers).
And Heath on the other hand...

94：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:48:23.56 ID:dc+4ZYT/: >>24

3番目に人気あったから（小声）
He was the 3rd most popular member (whispers)

34：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:39:56.76 ID:nAOXLlqH

SCANNERすき

I like "SCANNER"

39：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:40:30.34 ID:W1GjrOa4

トリビュートアルバムのメンツがやばかった

The artists on the tribute album were amazing

http://rocketdive.hide-city.com/img/uploads/news/201306272344_04840.jpg

40：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:41:03.77 ID:3F4A52fd

死んだら津田でも殿堂入りするし藤井でも永久欠番

そういうもんだ

Even someone like Tsuda got in the hall of fame, and Fujii's number was retired when he passed away.
That's just how it is.

43：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:41:32.47 ID:5CXVr0AV

zilchええよなぁ

"zilch" was good

44：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:41:36.90 ID:m1YVlvPs

布袋が弾いてたな

yoshikiと一触即発な感じになってhideが謝りに行ってたらしいけど

Hotei played with them, right?
But he and Yoshiki almost ended up in a fist fight, and hide was the one who approached Hotei to apologize, right?

61：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:43:40.07 ID:G67k1p1h: >>44

東大寺のイベントでヨシキが遅刻してきたのに怒った布袋が掴みかかったやつか

あの後ヨシキがホテルで大暴れしたらしいな

なお、氷室とは仲良しの模様
Oh, the event in Todaiji where Yoshiki ran late and Hotei lashed at him?
I heard that Yoshiki went to Hotei's hotel after that and ran riot.
It also seems that Yoshiki is good friends with Himuro.

47：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:41:56.01 ID:SNFdiF0d

DICE大好き

I love "DICE"

48：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:41:56.63 ID:mkE5Bs01

横須賀の展示館まだあるん？

Is the museum still there in Yokosuka?

http://img.4travel.jp/img/tcs/t/album/lrg/10/17/76/lrg_10177696.jpg?20070905010201

58：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:43:20.74 ID:3F4A52fd: >>48

ないよ

ただのロックミュージアムに変わった
No more. It's been transformed into a regular rock museum.

50：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:42:10.06 ID:B+zYcBpX

あいつのギターヘッタクソで聞けたもんじゃねえだろ

But that guy's guitar playing was so bad, it was barely listenable, right?

54：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:42:47.11 ID:le5LGe2l

解散前後は一番人気かもなあ

林さんがあれだったせいで

He's probably the most popular member around their final days as a band.
Mainly because Hayashi-san (Yoshiki) was like that.

55：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:42:53.15 ID:gDtK0Zk/

あんな格好して難病のガキを見舞ったり

寄付とかも結構やってたぐう聖

Despite wearing clothes like that, he did visit a kid who had a disease, and was even active in charity events-- he really was like a saint.

http://www.geocities.co.jp/HeartLand-Namiki/1148/hidemayuko.jpg

60：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:43:29.72 ID:QDJPXB6T: >>55

結果として骨髄バンクの存在は知られたもよう
Well I heard that the Marrow Donor Program became popular because of that

73：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:46:03.98 ID:ZeNgud86: >>55

小学校の頃の夢は医者やったらしいしね
I heard that he wanted to become a doctor when he was in grade school

57：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:42:58.77 ID:1ZNWhzYh

カリスマ的な人気があったのは1st

一般受けするようになったのが2nd～RocketDiveあたり

んで死亡特需でカリスマポップスターよ

His 1st album had a charismatic popularity.
His 2nd up to Rocket Dive were more mainstream.
And then he became this charismatic pop star because of his death.

66：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:44:50.32 ID:SNFdiF0d

LASTLIVEでのSCARSのコーラス、WEEKEND、DAHLIA、ORGASMでのギターソロ

最高すぎるだろ

His backup singing in "SCARS", and his guitar solo on "WEEK END", "DAHLIA", and "ORGASM" during the LAST LIVE were the best

67：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:44:50.86 ID:tXij6EGF

ROCKET DIVEとever freeはめちゃくちゃええ曲

"ROCKET DIVE" and "ever free" were really good songs

77：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:46:28.61 ID:bcmFcufr: >>67

ワイも大好きや

カラオケ行ったら必ず歌うで
I love those as well.
I always sing them on karaoke without fail.

69：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:45:09.80 ID:W1GjrOa4

清春のbeauty&stupidのカバーのハマり具合が最高

His cover of Kiyoharu's "Beauty & Stupid" was amazing

76：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:46:21.91 ID:XzYYh+Ng

小太りで元いじめられっ子のhide

hide used to be chubby and was bullied

82：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:46:43.15 ID:1ZNWhzYh

ピンクスパイダーは死んだすぐ後に発売

死ぬ前から発売は決まっていて、プロモーションとかは先取りして撮ってあったから生前のイメージがあるけど急逝で爆発的に売れた感は否めない

"Pink Spider" was released immediately after he died.
It was already scheduled for release when he was still alive, and the PV was already shot, so there's this image that this song was released when he was still alive. But you still can't deny the fact that the sales only exploded because of his death.

83：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:46:51.20 ID:p8T/Yxoz

今PV見ても古臭さなど微塵も感じない

あんま知らんけどカリスマ性はすげーと思うわ

His PVs still look new up to this day, they don't give that feeling of ancientness.
I'm not that knowledgeable, but I do think that he was really charismatic.

86：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:47:15.15 ID:G67k1p1h

インタビューやとおばあちゃんが自分よりハデや言うてたけど

hideよりハデなばーちゃんてどんだけやねん

He did say in an interview that his grandma was more gaudy than him.
Then how gaudy was that granny if she's above hide in that category?

100：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:49:14.68 ID:QDJPXB6T: >>86

ウィキによると美容師の、おばあちゃんというには若くて派手だったらしい
According to his wiki, she's a beautician who was fairly young to be called a granny, and was really gaudy

88：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:47:29.82 ID:yYEIk4jE

hi-hoって曲が中居がやってた番組で使われてた記憶

I recall his song hi-ho was used in one of Nakai's programs

89：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:47:43.86 ID:ZFHJy8+V

coccoと付き合ってたってマジ？

精神持ってかれるわ

Is it true that he dated cocco?
That must have sucked his spirit away.

http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/ka1_thug/imgs/8/6/86a5b958.jpg

92：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:48:01.33 ID:y6Eevcjg

ドラムセットに座るHIDE

すき

I like HIDE when he sits behind a drum set

http://a29img.chip.jp/uimg/r/rers/1/cdte7jw7zsA.jpg

96：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:48:40.84 ID:Zc3xX+kC: >>92

わかる
I get you

99：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:49:14.68 ID:cgCtprut

当時ギター始めた奴の5人に1人はhideモデルだったイメージだわ

I think 1 out of 5 guys who started playing the guitar at that time used the 'hide model'

http://img02.ti-da.net/usr/ranki2inoran4visual/hide%E7%94%BB%E5%83%8F.jpg

117：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:52:17.40 ID:fuoh6RgM: >>99

モッキンバード廃止を止めた原因やからな
He was the reason why the Mocking Bird (guitar) production that was supposed to stop still carried on

103：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:50:02.19 ID:ugC3BFYD

テレフォンショッキングに出たときはいいとも録画したわ

まさかいいともを録画するとは思いもしなかった

I recorded Iitomo's Telephone Shocking corner when he was on it.
Never would I have imagined that I'd be recording Iitomo.

X　Hide いいとも 投稿者 hiro32612000

104：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:50:06.66 ID:y6Eevcjg

お台場のhideミュみてきた

I went to see the hide museum in Odaiba

116：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:52:06.06 ID:W1GjrOa4: >>104

ワイも行って来たで～
Me too

http://i.imgur.com/Vu22IYf.jpg

107：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:50:34.65 ID:K3gSWG/2

V系好きじゃないけどrocket diveは好きだった

I don't like Visual-kei but I liked "Rocket Dive"

109：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:51:10.05 ID:CpnOtnuD

ほんとカッコイイよなあ

もっと早く気付くべきだった

He was really cool.
I should have noticed that sooner.

111：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:51:25.09 ID:imYyyDfZ

普通に今聞いてもかっこＥ

He's still cool even if you listen to him now

114：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:52:01.60 ID:Dn/0zO0v

ヨシキが神格化されてる理由が分からない

バイトでライブ聞いてたが普通に下手というかあれより上手いドラマー一杯おるやん

真也のが好きですｷﾘｯ

I don't know the reason why Yoshiki is being regarded as someone like a god.
I listened to their live concert at my part-time job, but he's not even that good. I think there are tons of drummers who are better than him.
I prefer Shinya to him.

http://www.jpopasia.com/i1/news/3/9751-iqzdhkph4z.jpg

118：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:52:26.14 ID:SNFdiF0d

なお、最近のガキどもはHIDEはおろかXも知らない模様

X＜バンプオブチキンとかさすがにネタだよな

And it seems that the kids nowadays don't even know HIDE, let alone X.
X < Bump of Chicken? Damn, is that a joke?

122：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:52:58.47 ID:PkjxGY3i

演奏力は言うほどでもない

だけどカリスマ性はすごかった

His playing skills weren't all that.
But his charisma was amazing.

125：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:53:38.50 ID:nIMJvXo4

hideが亡くなったから再結成ライブで全然hideの曲やってくれないんだよなあ

良い曲多いのに

After hide died, they stopped playing hide's songs at their reunion concerts.
To think that he's got a lot of good songs.

126：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:53:50.15 ID:kpL+QugE

人気

ヨシキ＞ヒデ＞＞＞＞＞＞トシ＞タイジ＞＞＞パタ＞ヒース

Popularity

Yoshiki > Hide >>>>>> Toshi > Taiji >>> Pata > Heath

136：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:55:03.68 ID:ZO8FjJJZ: >>126

TAIJIがアゴより下とか絶対ないからｗ

YOSHIKI＞＞＞＞HIDE＞TAIJI＞＞アゴ＞＞パタ

ぐらい
There's no way that TAIJI is lower than chin-man.

YOSHIKI >>>> Hide > Taiji >> Chin-man >> Pata

127：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:53:51.01 ID:h/rBMwHU

Mステの演出がどれも神がかってたな

Hi-HoでJKのパンツ見えたり

All their appearances on Music Station were godly.
The panties of a highschooler were even seen in "Hi-Ho".

129：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:54:26.29 ID:ZO8FjJJZ

ぶっちゃけ歌下手だよね

But honestly, he wasn't a good singer

139：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:55:32.59 ID:1ZNWhzYh: >>129

歌唱力はないかもだけど面白い歌い方するわな

あと語彙のチョイスがうまい、声にあってる
He probably didn't have singing ability, but he did sing in an interesting manner.
And his choice of vocabulary's good, it fit his voice.

141：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:55:59.89 ID:swmWdK/o

ROCKET DIVEとか今聞いても古さを感じさせないからすごい

It's amazing how you can still listen to "ROCKET DIVE" now and it still doesn't feel old

142：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:56:01.70 ID:XzYYh+Ng

XとX JAPANは別物という風潮

And what about this thing where people are treating X differently from X-Japan

145：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:56:25.12 ID:ZO8FjJJZ: >>142

実際別物だろ

TAIJI抜けて音楽性変わった
They're actually different.
Their musicality changed once TAIJI left.

143：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:56:07.03 ID:ugC3BFYD

一番ギターうまかったのってHIDEでもPATAでもなくTAIJIだとおもうわ

But the best guitarist wasn't HIDE nor PATA, but TAIJI.

146：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:56:41.55 ID:ZO8FjJJZ: >>143

それ一番言われてるから
That's what everyone's been saying.

150：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:56:51.40 ID:QDJPXB6T: >>143

ヒデがTAIJIにギター教えてもらった言うてるねんからそうなんやろな
Must be so, because even hide said that TAIJI was the one who taught him.

158：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:58:19.00 ID:m1YVlvPs: >>143

一人次元が違うから最初からそうだとは思っていた
He was the only one on a totally different level, so that's what I've been thinking of since the start.

148：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:56:46.89 ID:VacBUbG9

エバーフリーは今聞いてもやばい

これは思い出補正ではない疾走感溢れる名曲だわさ

"Everfree" is still so good even if you listen to it now.
This isn't because of nostalgia; it's just a great song that overflows with that sense of speed.

155：風吹けば名無し 2013/09/11(水) 23:58:04.08 ID:W1GjrOa4