Sunday, September 8, 2013

So what can you say about the Southern All Stars' and Mr. Children's musical skills?


1: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 13:41:00.06 0 ID:

"The number one reason why Southern All Stars went on a hiatus was because Kuwata-san was disappointed with the other members' playing skills. In MisChil's case, it seems that the members other than Sakurai are just content in playing indifferently, as if they don't intend on becoming better players anymore."

Source: http://www.cyzo.com/2010/03/post_4075.html

http://img5.blogs.yahoo.co.jp/ybi/1/45/e4/risa_mcssutn/folder/453731/img_453731_6972089_0


5: softbank218128117089.bbtec.net 2010/03/13(土) 14:06:02.88 0 ID:
「弘だけは唯一 対外的にも堂々と紹介できるミュージシャンだ」
って桑田さん言ってたよ。
だからKUWATA BANDでも彼だけをサザンから使った。
Kuwata-san once said, "Hiroshi's the only musician I can proudly introduce to the others".
And that's why he was the only SAS member who's also in KUWATA BAND.
http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/68/38/df275630738cf0102d6093f3595c0b2c.jpg
7: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 14:14:44.10 0 ID:
ミスチルのBird Cageって曲のドラム上手いだろう
俺詳しくないけど
I thought the drum parts were good in MisChil's "Bird Cage".
I'm not that knowledgeable though.
9: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 15:16:51.31 0 ID:
桜井と同級生だったってだけで勝ち組になれた
超ゴールデンラッキーなカス
They're the super golden lucky members who are winners in life just because they were Sakurai's batchmates in highschool
http://yaplog.jp/whitecat-child/img/97/koukou.jpg
11: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 15:21:00.43 0 ID:
ミスチルの桜井以外って運よすぎだろ
Everyone other than Sakurai in MisChil is just plain lucky
12: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 15:22:28.21 0 ID:
桜井はもうちょっと傲慢になっても良いと思うんだ
その他大勢と金でもめないのはちょっとおかしい
I honestly think Sakurai can afford to be more arrogant.
I find it odd that he's not getting into money issues with his "etc. members".
23: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 16:23:10.11 0 ID:
>>12
嫁捨ててギリギリガールズ養って疲れちゃったんだろ
He's probably tired after taking care of the Girigiri Girls after dumping his ex-wife.
13: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 15:23:17.29 0 ID:
長年プロとして楽器やってて何で下手なの
練習する時間は腐るほどあるだろそれが仕事なのに
They've all been pros for a long time now, why are they still bad at playing?
I'm sure they have all the time in the world to practice, that's their job after all.
15: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 15:24:56.55 0 ID:
スピッツは皆上手いのにギターだけ残念みたいに言われるけど
ロビンソンの印象的なイントロを考案したのは他でもないあの人
People say that everyone in SPITZ is good except for the guitarist. But the person who created that impressive intro riff on their song "Robinson" is none other than that very man.




http://image.excite.co.jp/jp/music2010/check/review/1112/spitz1.jpg
19: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 16:09:30.35 0 ID:
ミスチルってドラムだけはまともな印象だったのに
But I've always been under the impression that MisChil's only decent player is the drummer
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/lambsear11/imgs/3/d/3dcca2ff.jpg
20: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 16:11:40.78 0 ID:
ミスチルは演奏下手だろ
何も印象に残るフレーズがない
ミスチルファンにミスチルの魅力聞いても99%桜井の歌唱力、ルックス、曲のよさ、詞のよさしか言わない
残り1%くらいメンバーの絆とか言うやついるかもしれんけど
MisChil's bad at playing.
They don't have musical phrases that leave an impression.
Even when you ask MisChil fans on what appeals to them, 99% will just say that it's all about Sakurai's singing ability, looks, great songs, and nice lyrics. There might be 1% who'll say something like the bond between the members.
22: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 16:21:21.87 0 ID:
切らないのは優しさのつもりなのか知らないけどこういうのって一番残酷じゃね
才能ないのは本人達が一番良く分かってるだろうよ
Their being able to continue playing with the band might be because of the kindness shown to them, but don't you think that this is the harshest thing to endure? These people with no talent whatsoever probably know that best.
24: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 16:24:17.64 0 ID:
>>22
サザンとミスチルくらい売れてりゃ別にいいだろ
中途半端に売れたバンドの雑魚メンとかどうにもならんぞ
Who cares if you're selling as much as SAS and MisChil? Then what about the bad members of those bands who just sold half-assedly?
26: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 16:27:11.05 0 ID:
才能なくたって金はもらえてるんだからやめたくないだろバックバンドでも
If you can earn this much even if you don't have any sort of talent then why would you quit? That's also true for their backing band.
28: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 16:29:50.47 0 ID:
今更クビにされても音楽じゃ食っていけないしなあ
They won't be able to earn a living through music even if you decide to fire them now
31: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 16:32:12.19 0 ID:
10年前ミスチルのライブを見に行った
何故かサポートのギターの人が間奏でソロを弾いていた
桜井も何曲かギターソロを披露していた
シーソーゲームではサックスの人がソロをやっていた
田原は何のためにいたんだろう
I watched a MisChil concert 10 years ago. For some reason, the supporting guitarist played the solo part of the song.
Even Sakurai played the solo for a number of songs.
During "See-saw game", the guy who played the sax did the solo.
So what was Tahara's purpose in there?




http://img5.blogs.yahoo.co.jp/ybi/1/70/03/ru_chitann/folder/734989/img_734989_9521437_0
36: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 16:36:02.45 0 ID:
演奏力が必要な音楽性のバンドじゃないし
But the music of these bands don't necessarily require them to be able to play extremely well
46: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 16:51:41.83 0 ID:
>>36
そうだよね
そもそも曲を書く奴が技術を必要とする曲を書く才能がないし
That's true.
I think the guy writing the songs doesn't have the talent to compose songs that require technique in the first place.
44: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 16:49:32.83 0 ID:
バンドのボーカルって大抵ナルシストじゃん
カスメンを見捨てない優しい俺友情に厚い俺ってのに酔ってるんだろう
そういう体裁を気にしないタイプだとトータスみたいになる
Band vocalists are primarily narcissists.
They're the types who think, "See? I'm such a nice person since I'm treasuring my friendship with them and keeping them in the band".
They'll just end up like Tortoise if they're the types who aren't concerned with that kind of system.

http://news-entame.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/interview04_17.jpg
50: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 16:56:21.16 0 ID:
>>44
そういう理由で解散だか活動休止になったの?
ウルフルズってもともとお友達バンドでなかったっけ?
Is that why they disbanded or they went on a hiatus?
Wasn't the Ulfuls just a band made up of friends?
55: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:09:25.42 0 ID:
我の強いトータスと他のメンバーが衝突したくさい
ジョンBが一旦辞めたり色々あったからな
It seems that the arrogant Tortoise got into a conflict with the other members.
A lot of things went on with that band, what with John B quitting and stuff.
56: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:14:35.73 0 ID:
>>55
数年前にTVでウルフルズのライブドキュメントあったけど
リハーサルでトータスがドラムをフルボッコしていたな
とても楽器出来ないヤツも含めて発足した寄り合いバンドとは思えなかったw
I saw a concert documentary of the Ulfuls on TV a few years back, and there was this episode where Tortoise just beat the crap out of the drummer during rehearsal. It didn't seem like they were a bunch of friends who couldn't play instruments and just decided to form a band.
60: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:20:04.48 0 ID:
ウルフルズは結構上手いだろ
The Ulfuls are pretty good
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/10725733/ulfu.jpg
66: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:28:00.44 0 ID:
サザンは桑田より嫁の方が天才なんだろ
In SAS, I think the wifey is more talented than Kuwata

http://sp.natalie.mu/media/0908/0812/extra/news_large_harayuko_art090812.jpg
73: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:31:53.54 0 ID:
ミスチルはベース割とプロでも好きな人はいるんじゃなかったかな
スタジオ版しか聴いたことないからライブも含めた上手い下手事情はよくわからんけど
I think there are quite a few professionals who like MisChil's bassist.
But I've only heard the studio version of their songs so I don't really know if he's good live.
http://pic.prepics-cdn.com/mischillove/15847962.jpeg
74: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:32:06.06 0 ID:
爆風スランプは風貌とは違ってバックはみんな凄腕の実力者
Bakufu Slump's backing members on the other hand are all amazing musicians despite looking like that

http://blog-imgs-38.fc2.com/l/a/s/lasthouseontheleft/2010100802.jpg
92: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:39:37.51 0 ID:
>>74
セイキマIIとか早稲田バンドは凄いんだなw
Like SEIKIMA-II, all these Waseda bands are pretty amazing LOL
80: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:34:58.06 0 ID:
おまえらどの楽器がうまい下手とかよく分かるよな
Wow, you guys know which instrument players are good and bad, huh
85: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:38:27.78 0 ID:
>>80
いやわかってる奴は少ないw
わかってるアピールしたいだけだろ
Nah, not a lot know the good from the bad LOL
They're just trying to pretend that they know.
86: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:38:38.43 0 ID:
ミスチル鈴木はドラム上手いじゃん
コーラスもしてるし必要メンだよ
まあギター&ベースは空気だけど・・・
MisChil's Suzuki is a good drummer. He also sings back-up vocals, he's an indispensable member.
Well, the guitarist and bassist are both like thin air though...
90: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:39:21.46 0 ID:
ラルクのKENもギターは決して上手くないよね
L'Arc's KEN isn't really that good too, right?




http://rstakiraabnormal.up.d.seesaa.net/rstakiraabnormal/androidapp/2790120427035804-1356463650.png
96: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:41:01.57 0 ID:
>>90
難しいフレーズは弾きたくないからごまかすって本人が言ってたw
He personally said that he didn't like playing difficult phrases and just cheats w
91: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:39:26.43 0 ID:
ルナシーってボーカルが一番残念っていう稀有なバンドだったよね
LUNA SEA is one of the rare bands in which the vocalist is the most disappointing member of the bunch
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/3979475/LUNA+SEA+lunacy.jpg
94: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:39:47.36 0 ID:
メンバーの演奏が上手くても聴いてる人のほとんどは分からないもんな
素人に下手だと思われないある程度のレベルならそれでいいんじゃないだろうか
I don't think the listeners can really tell if the musicians are good or not.
It's fine as long as they're on a level where amateurs can't tell that they're bad.
104: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:43:45.07 0 ID:
サザンやミスチル聴いてる人はメンバーの演奏が上手いとか下手とかあんまり語らないでしょ
だから別にいいんじゃないの
演奏にこだわるような人は別のバンド聴くだろうし
But people who listen to SAS and MisChil don't really talk about the members being good or bad players, so this isn't really an issue. People who insist on the musical abilities will just listen to other bands.
114: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:46:37.07 0 ID:
>>104
みんなそんなことわかっててネタにしてんだろw
Everyone knows that and that's why they're being made fun of
113: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:46:26.15 0 ID:
上手いけど売れないより下手だけど売れる方がすごいんじゃないか
But it's more amazing to be able to sell a whole lot more even when you're bad rather than being good players but can't sell anything
119: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:47:17.27 0 ID:
ウルフルズは他の奴らもなまじ下手糞じゃないからギクシャクしちゃったのかも分からんね
完全に無能だったらボーカルに大人しく従うしかないし
In the Ulfuls case, I think they were all pretty good so there was a clash of pride. If they were totally talentless, they would have all just followed what the vocalist wanted.
131: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:49:21.81 0 ID:
下手でもいいんだよ日本には下手を許容する文化があるんだから
とにかくメンバー間の仲が悪いと歌に説得力がねーわ
It's alright if they're bad. The Japanese has a culture of permitting things that aren't even good.
Their songs will just lose all sort of believability once you know that there's discord among the members.
136: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:49:59.95 0 ID:
>>131
アイドルソング文化ですね
The idol-culture, huh
137: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:50:19.91 0 ID:
下手って言ってもプレイが荒いだけなのか
本当にテクがないのかよくわからん
When you say "bad", do you mean that they're just unpolished players or they really have no technique at all? I don't get it.
146: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:51:45.85 0 ID:
松尾宗仁さんもひどくて有名だけど田原ってこれ以下なの?w
Sounin Matsuo's also notorious for his bad playing, but does this mean that Tahara is even worse than him?

伝説のチャロック・ザ・ナイト・アウェイ
The legendary cha-Rock the night away



(2:47~)
(random)
ゥrルゥtャ~ラr~~~…ゥgn
キョン・kェ・キャラrラr
kョンキェ~~~~ンkyンキョn
キャラゥル~~~~wッkュ
kャラルr~ンチャ~ラrbッキュ
ン~キャルリラ~~~ンチャラ
ル~~~…キャン!キャン!キャン!キャン!
キャ~~~~~ンルリラ~~…
(以下なんとか軌道修正成功)
(then manages to get back on track)
157: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:54:14.45 0 ID:
>>146
これテク以前に音が終わってね?
We can't talk about the technique without talking about how bad the sound is first
161: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:55:32.62 0 ID:
>>146
松尾宗仁は背高くて顔が整っているからいいんだよ
Sounin Matsuo's tall and has good facial features so it's alright
169: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:57:32.92 0 ID:
>>146
これはヒドイねwww
でもこの松尾ってジギーのオリメンじゃん
This is horrible www
But Matsuo's an original member of ZIGGY, right?
170: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:57:48.48 0 ID:
>>146
テロップwwwwwwww
The subtitle wwwwwwwww
156: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:54:12.09 0 ID:
世界で一番ラッキーな雑魚メンはジョージとリンゴ
The world's luckiest "etc." members are George and Ringo

http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201002/25/53/b0080053_21174524.jpg
158: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:55:05.06 0 ID:
>>156
リンゴはともかくジョージは貢献してるだろ
Ringo yeah, but George made some contributions
166: 名無し 2010/03/13(土) 17:56:23.55 0 ID:
>>156
ジョージハリスンは雑魚メンではない
Excuse me, George Harrison is not an "etc."
162: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:55:45.84 0 ID:
シャ乱Qの演奏テクニックってどうなんだろ
ミスチルよりはさすがに上手いと思うけど
What about Sharan-Q's playing technique?
I think they're at least better than MisChil.
http://ziko1.up.d.seesaa.net/ziko1/image/attki232-8be16.jpg?d=a0
176: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:59:40.77 0 ID:
>>162
まこととたいせーは若干微妙
Makoto and Taisei aren't that good
171: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:58:03.98 0 ID:
スピッツはどうなの?
ギター普通にまあうまいってか独特な感じして個人的には好きだけど
What about Spitz?
I think the guitarist is pretty good and original, I personally like him.
175: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:59:26.04 0 ID:
>>171
ドラムがアホみたいに上手い
ギターは丁寧だけど普通の部類だと思う
The drummer's crazy good.
The guitarist plays cleanly, but I think he's classified as "average".
173: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 17:58:50.02 0 ID:
スピッツはかなり上手いでしょ
ベースの人が無駄に動くけどw
Spitz is pretty good.
The bassist moves too unnecessarily though.
183: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:02:09.59 0 ID:
スピッツのベースの音とか好きだな
ジュリマリとかスピッツを昔から聞いいとけば良かったかと思う
I like the sound of the Spitz's bassist.
I've always thought that I should have listened to Judy & Mary and Spitz from before.
194: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:05:54.28 0 ID:
近年上手くなったと言われる大ベテランのギターソロでもくらえ
Take this super veteran's guitar solo which is said to have improved over the recent years
207: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:10:19.27 0 ID:
>>194
今井先生はクスリのやりすぎじゃねえのか
ただ適当なチョーキングで誤魔化してるだけじゃん
But Imai-sensei must be overdosed.
He's just cheating by choking here and there.
210: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:11:32.23 0 ID:
>>194
タラララーのタイミングが4回とも違うw
The timing of "tararara" is wrong for all 4 times
204: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:08:27.74 0 ID:
おまえらこれでも聴いて落ち着けよ!
You guys should listen to this first and calm down!
208: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:10:59.33 0 ID:
>>204
ヒ・・・酷いwww
T...terrible www
214: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:12:34.80 0 ID:
>>204
これは素人だろw
These guys are amateurs w
209: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:11:04.85 0 ID:
チャゲアスが上京するときに断腸の思いでメンバーを切ったっていうのがあったな
スタジオミュージシャンと比較させて説得されたとか
Chage and Aska had to sadly cut a member when they came to Tokyo, right?
They convinced the member after comparing him with the studio musician.
227: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:19:12.51 0 ID:
>>209
メジャーデビュー時に商品価値のないメンバーが切られるのは良くあること
Dropping members who have no product value right before going major happens quite a lot
226: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:19:11.03 0 ID:
音楽系の板に行くとミスチル(笑)言われる所以だな
And that's why when you go to music forums, they just dismiss them by saying "MisChil (LOL)"
259: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:30:01.08 0 ID:
楽器やらないからよくわからんけどサザンの関口さんはどうなの
斎藤誠と大森は比べるべくもないことくらいはわかるんだけど
I don't play any instruments so I have no clue, but what about SAS' Sekiguchi-san?
I do know that there's no point comparing him with the likes of Makoto Saito and Ohmori though.
http://www.aloha-street.com/img/640x640/805/13493373570.80521900.jpg
277: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:42:05.24 0 ID:
>>259
関口のベース奏法は独創性があって良いって桑田は褒めてたよ
Kuwata once praised Sekiguchi's bass-playing as being original and creative
265: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:33:41.18 0 ID:
ミスチルのライブ行く層に演奏なんて気にしてる奴が何割存在するんだよ
桜井が真ん中に立って歌ってさえいれば問題ないだろ
But seriously, what percentage of these MisChil concert-goers are even concerned about their instrument playing?
They're fine as long as Sakurai's there standing in the middle and singing, right?
283: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:47:14.91 0 ID:
ビーズはショーンギャラースっていう人のドラムが凄くよかった記憶がある
愛のバクダンの
I remember B'z Shane Gaalaas' drumming was super good. 
You know, for "Ai no Bakudan".
285: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:48:11.41 0 ID:
身内が褒めた所で桑田は優しいなとしか思わないよね
Kuwata will just be regarded as this kind fellow even if he praises his bandmates
289: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 18:51:54.23 0 ID:
岸部一徳のベースはめっちゃうまいと聞いたことがあるがどうなの
I heard once that Ittoku Kishibe's a super good bass player, how is he?

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342: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 21:14:32.49 0 ID:
>>289
「太陽にほえろ!」のテーマは井上堯之バンドでベース弾いてんのが一徳
ベースが圧倒的にカッコイイだろ
Ittoku played bass for Takayuki Inoue's band that played the theme for Taiyou ni Hoero!"
The bass parts there are overwhelmingly good.
357: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 21:49:07.63 0 ID:
太陽にほえろ!!!
Taiyou ni hoero!!
359: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 21:54:51.42 0 ID:
>>357
一徳すげーな
Ittoku's amazing
308: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 19:10:30.87 0 ID:
桑田って結局メンバー全員の演奏力を褒めてた
Kuwata actually praised the playing of all members
313: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 19:14:24.20 0 ID:
>>308
いい人過ぎるだろ
He's just too nice
317: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 19:21:39.67 0 ID:
演奏上手いのってメタルっぽい人たちしかいないの?
So are the ones playing metal the only ones who can be considered good?
319: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 19:22:36.15 0 ID:
>>317
メタルのほかだとフュージョンとかじゃね?
一般的にはどっちもダサい言われようだけどね
Other than metal, there's also fusion.
But public opinion regard both as pretty lame though.
321: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 19:23:39.53 0 ID:
技術的に演奏上手いのみなら
スタジオミュージシャン集めて結成すれば
If you just want good instrument players, then why not just gather studio musicians and form a band?
326: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 19:25:06.37 0 ID:
>>321
ただの東京事変だな
That'll just be like Tokyo Jihen
332: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 20:27:41.37 0 ID:
ミスチルが下手なのは有名だけどサザンってそんな言うほどか?
MisChil being bad musical players is pretty well-known, but is that also true for SAS?
333: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 20:31:33.58 0 ID:
サザンはプロって感じ
SAS feel more like professionals
365: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 22:51:52.89 0 ID:
まあ同級生とか仲よしが作ったバンドとうまいやつらを集めたバンドじゃ違うよな
Well yeah, a band formed with your schoolmates is different from a band formed with good players
367: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 23:08:00.42 0 ID:
ウルフルズって元はウルフルケイスケがギター弾きたいのバンドだったんだろ
The Ulfuls was originally created so Ulful Keisuke can play his guitar, right?

376: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/13(土) 23:58:16.11 0 ID:
>>367
そうそう
それがいつの間にやらトータスのワンマンバンドみたいになってた
Right.
Then before we knew it, it just became Tortoise's one man band.
382: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/14(日) 00:13:44.67 0 ID:
巧いかどうかはポップミュージックの場合それほど重要じゃない
むしろバンドらしいバンドが日本は少ない
バンドでやってる意味や必然性がないというか
In pop music, there's no need to talk about whether or not they're good players.
Japan just doesn't have bands that you can actually call "bands".
It's like there's no point at all in them being a band.
399: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/14(日) 00:30:38.52 0 ID:
ミスチルって桜井以外作詞作曲アレンジ
どれもやってないの?
Doesn't anyone else from MisChil write or compose their songs?
417: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/14(日) 00:39:34.74 0 ID:
>>399
ドラムのJENの作曲の曲はあるな。
The drummer JEN composed one
404: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/14(日) 00:32:29.46 0 ID:
ルナシーも皆上手かった
だから解散したかとw
Everyone in LUNA SEA was good.
And that's why they disbanded w
408: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/14(日) 00:33:53.14 0 ID:
ビーズは二人だからこそ長続きしてる
作詞・作曲で分担されてるし
B'z are still around because there's only 2 of them.
They even divide the lyrics and the composing between the 2 of them.
410: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/14(日) 00:34:35.99 0 ID:
バクチク今井とか演奏力は結構やばいよな
まああの人は曲作りできるけど
BUCK-TICK's Imai isn't really that good, right?
Well, at least he can compose songs.

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413: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/14(日) 00:36:22.62 0 ID:
>>410
バクチクはうまい具合に足りない部分を補い合っているから長続きしているんだろうな
Buck-Tick seem to complement each other well and that's why they've been able to survive for so long.
411: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/14(日) 00:35:39.89 0 ID:
桜井って要するに自分だけスポットライト浴びてる状態が物凄く気持ちいいってタイプなんだろ
ソロでいいじゃんもう
Sakurai's the type who hogs the spotlight and all the attention, right?
Then he should just go solo.
412: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/14(日) 00:36:06.56 0 ID:
でも桜井はソロにならないのは賢いけどね
But it's smart that he isn't going solo
414: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/14(日) 00:36:29.32 0 ID:
バンドって演奏力だけじゃないとおもうんだけど
I don't think bands only require good playing
427: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/14(日) 01:00:35.64 0 ID:
下手糞でも全部自分達でやってる所は好感持てるしその内それがそのバンドの味になったりもする
サポートメンバーで誤魔化そうって発想はどうかと思う
Even if the members are bad, you can at least admire the fact that they're playing their own parts, and that's what becomes that band's distinct taste. I just don't like how other bands are trying to cheat with the support members playing for them.
437: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/14(日) 01:25:50.19 0 ID:
ミスチルのドラムは上手い方だろ
ベースも中の上ぐらい
ギターはノーコメント
完全にネタ記事
MisChil's drummer is pretty good.
The bassist is above average.
No comment on the guitarist.
449: 名無し募集中。。。 2010/03/14(日) 01:43:45.48 0 ID:
プロなんだからテクニックは相当あると思うぞ
別に全ての曲で限界まで絞り出して演奏してるわけないんだから
Their pros so they do have technique.
It just doesn't mean that they have to squeeze every ounce of their skills on each one of their songs.


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