Friday, September 20, 2013

Masahiro Nakai's advice to Becky on candid camera


1: 禿の月φ ★ 2013/09/13(金) 13:21:51.04 ID:???P
SMAP's Masahiro Nakai was on the variety show Ningen Kansatsu* variety monitoring (*Human observation) as Becky asked him about marriage without being aware that the cameras were rolling.

Becky approached Nakai, saying that there's this serious problem that she has about marrying the man she loves and wants to discuss with him. Nakai's first reply was, "I don't think I'm the one you're supposed to be discussing this with. You should talk this over with people who are really close to you like Aya Ueto. You have the wrong person. I don't have the confidence that I will be able to answer your question". But the look on his face changed at Becky's next words.

Becky said: "My agency said they can't look after me if I get married. It means that I'm getting fired...". To this, Nakai responded: "You can't think of having both at the same time. You need to be prepared to lose one or the other. You've entered that sort of industry. You cannot have everything. Didn't you join the showbiz world with that kind of resolve?"

Becky then asked: "Nakai-san, why aren't you getting married?". Nakai just dismissed it with, "Because I don't have a partner!". Then he added, "It's not something that you should do when you feel like doing it, it's something that you do when the right time comes, whether I'll be 50 or 60 by that time, then that's that". "Honestly, I don't think Johnny's will have anything to say if I tell them that I want to get married. But I'm a man so I have to keep on working, so I probably don't want to be tied down by marriage, like living together and stuff".

Nakai then concluded it by saying, "I think it's fine, why don't you go marry him? But you should properly tell your agency that you want to get married no matter what. If they tell you that you're fired, then you should accept that decision in good spirits". "If I just tell Johnny's that 'I'll be getting married tomorrow', then I'm sure they'll panic. You are still maintaining a certain amount of distance with this agency that has taken care of you, so you also have to reciprocate in accordance with that distance. It'll be rude on your agency so don't cause them trouble.".

People who watched this gave their thoughts on Twitter:
"Nakai-kun's so kind! I'd fall in love with him if he did that to me!"
"He's seriously so cool."
"The way he thinks is amazing."
"He made me feel how gallant someone is who has a strong resolve."
"Nakai-kun, wow. And I like how he doesn't put that forth all the time. I think he's godly for a human being."



http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/kyanews/imgs/9/3/9347db92.jpg


6: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:25:02.14 ID:WBPa9u9B0
こんなんでジャニヲタ騙せるから楽勝だよな
It must really be easy since he can fool the Jani-wotas with something like this
7: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:25:07.75 ID:54fzAQZB0
台本です
According to script
8: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:25:27.60 ID:d5kO7Yf0P
良かったよな、あれ
女の相談なんて、実は自分で答を出していて同意を求めているだけ
中居は背中を押して欲しいんだろ?と核心をついていた。
で、
結婚したい ⇒ じゃあすれば?
仕事続けたい ⇒ じゃあ仕事すれば?
心の奥の本音に従えって言う、実にスッキリとした答えだ。

あと、彼より昔から世話になっている仕事仲間に仁義を通せって言葉、良かったな
That was really good.
Women who are asking for advice actually already have their own answer to their problems, they just want other people to agree to them.
Nakai understood that and went straight to the point.
"I want to get married" ⇒ Then get married
"I want to keep working" ⇒ Then why don't you keep working?
It's a refreshing answer, telling her to just follow her heart and do what she really wants.
And his words about paying respect to the co-workers who have taken care of her was really nice. 
159: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 14:17:24.04 ID:ijqR0kS00
>>8
記事よりも分かりやすく的確な説明!
That's easier to understand and a much more concise explanation than the article!
426: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 19:25:14.10 ID:LhzVddfT0
>>8
台本が有った可能性も高いが、中居なら言いそうだし、そうやって生きてきた感じがする
ドラマとしても、教訓としてもいいコーナーだった。
I do feel that there's a high chance that this was scripted, but this is definitely something that Nakai would say, and I feel that this is how he lived his life. As a drama or as a lecture, this was a really good corner on the show.
9: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:25:41.13 ID:Ff83VFoU0
別に普通の答えだと思うが
他にどんな回答がある
結婚するな。ってかw
I think this was a normal answer.
Then what other responses would have been possible? Like "Don't get married!" or something?
557: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/14(土) 01:47:49.49 ID:1YW6txxl0
>>9
辻と太陽夫婦なんか仕事ほっぽってデキ婚したやん
ああいうアホなデキ婚野郎が多い芸能界
Because there are a lot of foolish shotgun marriages in the showbiz world like Tsuji and Taiyo who just neglected work.
18: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:27:03.81 ID:r1AkZZHZ0
映画の宣伝、ヤラセにきまってるだろw
It's probably scripted for the promotion of his film w
19: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:27:21.05 ID:CSe9wUDa0
脚本作った奴を褒めろよw
People should be praising the guy who wrote his script w
22: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:27:51.68 ID:tGu+7R7rO
ちょっとATARUの番宣クドすぎやしないか。
Don't you think this ATARU promotion is too obnoxious?

http://vegepples.net/wp-content/image/veg2-ataru.jpg
25: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:28:10.74 ID:Pm+5W4tv0
もう40すぎだろ。世間の同世代と比較すればこんなもんだよ。むしろ保守的だなって驚くんじゃないかって思ったけどな。
He's over 40 already, so I think even people from his generation would think similarly. I actually thought that people would be more surprised at how conservative he is.
27: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:29:40.23 ID:Ff83VFoU0
出川じゃないけどある程度のベテランなら隠しカメラがあるかどうかなんて簡単に分かるだろw
He isn't Degawa, but I think these veterans can easily tell if there are any hidden cameras around.
http://oym-knj.img.jugem.jp/20121230_426250.jpg
36: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:32:40.31 ID:HFxmXLvG0
40超えても1グループ1人しか結婚許さない異常な事務所の論理が正論なわけない
But I don't think that the logic of this crazy agency, who only permits 1 person per group to get married even when they're over 40, is correct.
40: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:33:41.15 ID:k4zD/u390
ジャニーズってガチのドッキリOKなの?
Does Johnny's allow their talents to be in serious candid camera shows?
43: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:34:04.24 ID:qajnvRD10
つかコイツ、中絶させたゴミじゃなかったっけ
仁義はどうやって通したのん?w
But isn't this the scumbag who had abortion?
How does he have honor in that? w
44: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:34:27.83 ID:Ko4g+wIT0
>>43
でやっと中絶ネタが出た
Aaaand we finally have someone here who brings up the abortion thing.
53: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:38:23.98 ID:E8zl63+j0
騒いでるのは主にジャニオタやジャニーズの工作員だろw
But the people praising him are mainly Jani-otas or Johnny's paid agents, right?
62: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:40:50.40 ID:l6PRMxtGO
なぜ中居をターゲットにしたのかわからんのか?
台本ありきの映画の宣伝に決まってるだろバーカ
Don't you guys know why they made Nakai as their target?
Since it's for the promotion of his movie you blockheads.
85: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:45:45.91 ID:vFiotgx/0
>>62
そもそも”素のリアクション”すら台本あったんじゃないのかと
There might really be a script for "acting naturally" even
71: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:43:33.04 ID:XX3uv9hF0
ベッキーがしつこくって気持ち悪かった
うぜえわとしか思ってなかったと思う
But Becky was so persitent, it was gross.
Nakai was probably thinking, "This girl's so annoying".
78: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:44:29.13 ID:B9knXjme0
絶対気付いてるだろ中居 
だてに長いこと芸能界にいない
Nakai must've definitely noticed the cameras rolling.
He hasn't been in the showbiz world that long for nothing.
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ahaha_times/imgs/2/7/271ab88a-s.png
86: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:46:02.15 ID:B9knXjme0
中居は計算高いからなあ
Bacause Nakai's a calculating fellow
101: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:51:39.93 ID:6oDAwu8mO
楽屋にベッキーが相談に来るって時点で違和感あるだろw
Wasn't there already something wrong with it the moment Becky came to ask for his advice in the dressing room? w
113: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:58:49.17 ID:7YRbSQ6s0
バラエティにガチのどっきりは存在しない
相手が大物なら尚更、しかも中居はクッキー食べる時に数回目でカメラ確認してたし
There are no real candid camera moments in these variety shows.
Especially when you're trying to pull this off at someone as huge as him. And he already confirmed the camera locations a number of times while he was eating the cookies.
114: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 13:59:14.68 ID:c8ENMcji0
中居に事前に説明してないわけないだろ。
There's no way they didn't explain this to Nakai beforehand.
121: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 14:00:58.61 ID:W3hCu9Ir0
昔キンキキッズがチンピラに絡まれて
剛がいきがってる企画もあったけど
あれも完全に台本だからな
A long time ago, there was a segment where KinKi Kids were approached by some thugs, and Tsuyoshi was acting all cool. But that was also entirely according to a script.


155: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 14:15:26.20 ID:TAMmmewBO
中居は昔からドッキリの常連。
騙されたふりなんてわけないよ。
本当こういう芝居は上手いw
Nakai has always been a regular on candid camera. Acting like he was fooled is a piece of cake to him. He's really good at handling stuff like this. w
164: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 14:19:33.56 ID:XNs9Cdih0
台本かそうでないかは知らないけど、カメラには気付いてたね
ガチのドッキリはSMAP様()には仕掛けられない
I don't know if it's scripted or not, but it did seem like he noticed the camera.
I don't think you'll be able to do serious hidden camera pranks on SMAP-sama.
165: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 14:19:38.03 ID:MN1qSzfE0
事務所に無断で中田氏婚した赤西にも何か言ってやれ
He should also say something to Akanishi who had that shotgun marriage without any consent from the agency.
175: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 14:23:33.87 ID:jpWjrW380
>>165
グループ抜けたり戻ってきたりする赤西に
「メンバーは都合のいい女じゃねーんだよ!」とは言ったよ
He did tell Akanishi who left the group and came back that,
"The other members aren't women whom you can use conveniently!".
177: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 14:23:46.57 ID:aGv/Anfi0
おれもイベントで巣の中居みたことあるけど
この人はホント性格いいと思う
ペーペーのバイトかなんかにも凄い気さくに且つ配慮して接してたからな
I did see Nakai in his essence during an event and I really believe that he's got a great attitude. He was even so nice and amiable to the newbie part-timer there.
205: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 14:41:41.47 ID:LbKml3uU0
女が芸能人やるのってそんなに男関係タブーなのか
処女厨じゃあるまいしブリブリアイドル以外はいいんじゃねえの
Are these female talents really not allowed to have relations with other men?
I'm not one of those clamoring for virginity, but I think this is fine except for those young idols.
211: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 14:44:02.13 ID:5GuDdhD5i
>>205
正直ベッキーがあそこまで男関係気にするのは意味分からん
他に意識すべきタレントは山ほどいるだろうにw
Seriously, I also don't get why someone like Becky would be so concerned about relationships with men. There are a lot of other talents who should be more concerned about it other than her w
229: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 14:53:58.13 ID:NIKNmMDl0
映画の公開直前はこんなんばっかり

10月の改編期を目前に、これからはうんざりするほど新ドラマの番宣が続くよ
どこまでも、いつでも、どこでも、どの局も
They always do stuff like this before the movies are shown.
With the new season about to start in October, expect all these annoying promotional gimmicks for dramas to continue.
No matter how much, whenever, wherever, or whatever TV station it may be.
241: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 15:07:50.25 ID:k1MHKRDPO
どっちにしろヤラセなら中居が芝居うまいって事だ
Whatever the case, it just means that Nakai's a good actor if this was scripted.
242: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 15:08:49.74 ID:AGDuxaxwO
クッキーのくだりは中居にこれはドッキリだと教えるためだな
教えとかないと親身に人の話なんか聞かないから
The one about the cookie was a strategy for them to tell Nakai that he's on candid camera.
Else, he won't listen to other people talking so kindly like that.
247: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 15:12:38.81 ID:kFFHsQsl0
ジャニーズって喫煙シーン問題ないのか・・・・
まぁ20位のお兄ちゃんでもないし40過ぎのおっさんだから問題ないか
So isn't there a problem when Johnny's talents do smoking scenes?...
Well, he's not a youngster in his 20s; he's an old dude in his 40s already, so there's probably no issue there.
250: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 15:13:49.02 ID:w9w4EDTki
>>247
前のSMAP5人旅でも中居だけ飯の時普通にタバコすってたな
Even when all 5 members of SMAP went to travel, it was only Nakai who smoked.
277: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 15:51:17.49 ID:eXOYNNCri
普通の事だけど、最近のガキは筋を通したり配慮したり、恩に報いるという考えが無いから、凄いことのように映るんだな。
It's actually a normal thing, but it seems that kids these days don't even think about giving consideration or repaying good deeds, so it may seem so great to them.
281: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 15:52:45.14 ID:665adrtv0
普通の対応だと思うけど、、、
中居だから意外性があって当たり前のこと言っててもよく見えるってこと?

つかそれよりベッキーうざい
I  think what he did was pretty normal...
Is it just that people were surprised because it was Nakai, and it'd look good even if he just said something normal?

Anyway, Becky was so annoying in that one.
314: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 16:28:29.52 ID:di4CeMLx0
これだな
This one

602: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/14(土) 10:22:21.79 ID:vdrcjZsDi
>>314
ありがとう
Thank you
326: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/09/13(金) 16:44:48.80 ID:ZSJ1UoZH0
普通すぎて何がなんだか
オレが同じようなこと言ったらキメーとかになんだろうな(/_;)
It's too normal so I'm really at a loss here.
But then if I said the same thing, people would probably think I'm gross (/_;)

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