マジで!? MAJI DE!?: Kurokouchi is so good, but why are the ratings so low?

Sunday, December 1, 2013

Kurokouchi is so good, but why are the ratings so low?

1：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:37:10.15 0 ID:

ねえ？
Right?

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2：ゲナテオーメ 2013/11/23(土) 11:38:40.23 0 ID:: 1話完結じゃないから
Because the stories don't end per episode
4：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:39:21.54 0 ID:: バカにはわからない伏線が多すぎるから
Because there are too many advance hints and underplots that stupid people can't comprehend
5：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:39:47.31 0 ID:: ババア受けする要素が無いから
Because there are no factors that would make it appeal to the grannies
6：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:40:26.97 0 ID:: 女子供にウケないだろ

けっこうハードボイルドだから男ウケは良いはず
It doesn't appeal to women and children.
It's pretty hard-boiled, so it must really appeal to men.
8：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:41:08.75 0 ID:: せーいかーい
Sei-ka-i
* (correct)
15：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:45:59.50 0 ID:: 面白いドラマに限って視聴率が低い
The good dramas always get the low ratings
18：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:47:51.02 0 ID:: 長瀬の演技が気持ちわるくて
Nagase's acting is disgusting

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22：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:52:03.18 0 ID:: このドラマの長瀬の演技微妙だよな

クロコーチというキャラになりきれておらず無理して喋ってる・演じてる感ありありの演技で
There's something wrong with Nagase's acting in this drama.
It feels like he hasn't entirely turned into the character Kurokouchi, and he really feels like he's being forced to talk and act like that.
23：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:53:33.21 0 ID:: クライマックスでTOKIOの糞曲が流れ出すとテンション上がる
My tension goes up whenever I hear TOKIO's horrible song during the climax of each episode
25：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:54:59.24 0 ID:: これはおもしろそうだから全部終わってから一気に見る予定
This really looks good so I'm planning to watch everything in one go once it's finished; 60：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 12:51:31.83 0 ID:

>>25
せいかーい
Seika-i
27：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:55:51.80 0 ID:: 剛力じゃなかったら見てた
I would have watched it if it wasn't for Gouriki
28：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:56:10.71 0 ID:: ざーんねーん
Zanne-n
* (too bad)
29：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:56:19.44 0 ID:: なんでやめごっちええやん
Why? Megocchi's good here.
30：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:57:10.54 0 ID:: 剛力可愛いけどな
Gouriki's actually cute

http://img5.blogs.yahoo.co.jp/ybi/1/46/38/disc1members_club/folder/433821/img_433821_11694371_3?1384327091.jpg
31：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:57:11.90 0 ID:: 長瀬は名作はらちゃんですら低視聴率だったのにクロコーチ程度のクオリティで高視聴率が取れるわけないだろ！
Even Nagase's classic Harachan had low ratings, there's no way something of Kurokouchi's quality would get high ratings!

http://files.hangame.co.jp/blog/2013/57/29390d7e/04/06/40668265/29390d7e_1365253994982.jpg
33：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:59:24.87 0 ID:: マイボスマイヒーローは視聴率良かったんじゃないの
Didn't My Boss, My Hero get good ratings?

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34：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 11:59:53.36 0 ID:: 今まで散々ゴーリキーで失敗してきてるから
避けられてるってのはほんとにありそう
Gouriki has been bombing so much up to now, so I do think people are avoiding her to an extent.
37：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 12:03:14.71 0 ID:: 3億円事件自体が興味ないことない？

時代背景である学生運動の話を持ち出されても全く共感しない

ネタが悪いってのはあるだろ
Maybe people aren't really interested in the \300 million case?
I really can't sympathize with something like a student movement of historical background.
I think this is also because of the bad plot.
39：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 12:07:26.02 0 ID:: お漏らしめごっちが無くなってから数字が低いな
The ratings have been bad after Megocchi stopped peeing (Related post HERE)

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41：ゲナテオーメ 2013/11/23(土) 12:08:09.00 0 ID:: えー

俺は長瀬のあの演技が好きなんだけど
Ehh---
I actually like Nagase's acting in this one.
42：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 12:10:31.02 0 ID:: ゆとり21歳だけど毎回とても楽しく見させてもらっています
I'm 21 from the yutori generation, but I always look forward to watching this every single week
43：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 12:11:29.00 0 ID:: ジャニ＋剛力

それくらいしか理由が思いつかない
Johnny's + Gouriki
That's the only reason I can think of.
44：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 12:12:17.87 0 ID:: 今回剛力ちゃんは空気居ても居なくてもいいキャラ

長瀬と渡部と小市慢太郎とレオだけ注意して見てればいい
Gouriki's like thin air here. You can do with or without her character.
Just pay attention to Nagase, Watabe, Mantaro Koichi, and Leo.

http://tod.tbs.co.jp/item/3170/thumbs/episode-27557-320.jpg
52：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 12:20:10.82 0 ID:: 今期で一番面白い

少なくとも安堂よりは全然マシ
This is the best drama this season.
It's much better than Ando, at least.
53：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 12:21:22.06 0 ID:: リーガルハイとクロコーチだけ見てる
I only watch Legal High and Kurokouchi
55：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 12:23:56.86 0 ID:: ぶっちゃけおれみたいなバカは

この作品の1番面白い騙し合いに付いて行けなくて今一つな感じ
Honestly, a stupid person like me can't follow the most interesting part of this drama which is how they try to outwit each other, and I can't really get into it
56：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 12:27:12.18 0 ID:: 三億円の真相と関係ないフィクションばっかりやってんだもの
Because they've been doing all these fictitious stuff that doesn't have any connection with the truth behind the 300 million case
59：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 12:50:41.75 0 ID:: 恋愛要素ゼロだから
Because there are no romantic elements whatsoever
62：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 12:52:37.70 0 ID:: 毎回スカッとした終わりじゃないからな

女は意味わかんなーいって感じだろ
Because each episode doesn't end refreshingly.
I think the girls who watch this all go like "I don't get it~".
65：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 12:55:07.24 P ID:: 裏が金ローだからねえ
Because it's against the Friday night roadshow in the same time slot on the other channel
67：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 12:57:59.17 0 ID:: 見てない人にドラマ内容を説明しておくと3億円事件の犯人と金の行方を2013年の現代にTOKIO長瀬扮する刑事が解明していくという話です
For the people who haven't been watching the drama, it's about a detective played by TOKIO's Nagase who tries to uncover the whereabouts of the \300 million and the criminal behind it now, in 2013.
73：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 13:04:27.33 0 ID:: 長瀬は泣くな、はらちゃんも今年のNo.1ドラマなんだけどね実際は

でも低視聴率だからってだけであまちゃんや半沢にすべて持っていかれる
In reality, Nagase's Nakuna, Harachan was actually the best drama this entire year.
But Amachan and Hanzawa get all the plaudits just because it had low ratings.
75：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 13:06:27.29 0 ID:: オレも剛力好きじゃなかった

でもクロコーチの剛力はかわいく思える謎
I also didn't like Gouriki.
But it's really a mystery why she looks cute in Kurokouchi.

http://uwanabi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/27bb27138119670922c080237b29f97d.jpg; 78：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 13:07:28.55 0 ID:

>>75
おもらし効果
It's because she wet herself
80：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 13:08:29.49 P ID:: クロコーチの剛力はそこまでゴリゴリされてる雰囲気じゃないからよかった
Because Gouriki doesn't feel like she's being forced too much here in Kurokouchi, and that's why she's good
81：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 13:09:19.02 0 ID:: 代打の監察医がブチャイクで辛い
The medical examiner who came in (in place of Yuu Kashi) is too ugly, it's tough

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99：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 13:20:42.58 0 ID:: 相棒とかの一話完結ものばっかり観てたから、ちょっと物語の進行が遅く感じる

でも超おもしろいけどね
After getting used to Aibou and the like which end each episode, I feel that the story of this one drags on too much.
But it's super good.
100：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 13:23:30.58 0 ID:: 散髪にいって長瀬みたいにしてもらったら
When I went to have my hair cut and asked for something similar to Nagase's...

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こんな感じになった
I looked like this; 103：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 13:29:56.09 0 ID:

>>100

これを長瀬が演じるのがすげえな

ジャニでも長瀬だけは認めてやってもいい

けどもっと適任な俳優がいそうな気がしないでもないｗ
It's amazing that Nagase's playing this role.
Nagase is the only one whom I accept in Johnny's.
But I also get the feeling that there are other actors who are better suited for the role.
101：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 13:27:25.56 0 ID:: 原作のクロコーチの相棒は男なんだよな

岡田将生とかが良かった
Kurokouchi's partner is a man in the original.
Masaki Okada would've been a good choice.

http://www.nihonbungeisha.co.jp/goraku/kurokochi/img/correl_s.jpg
102：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 13:29:12.34 0 ID:: 初回のゴーリキの超記憶力凄いみたいな能力はなんだったんだ
What was with Gouriki's super memorizational skills in the first episode all about?
104：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 13:43:00.67 0 ID:: 周りは観てるやつ多いけどな
There are actually a lot of people I know who watch this
106：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 13:45:14.12 0 ID:: 面白いよな

今はこれだけ見てる
This is really good.
This is the only one I watch this season.
109：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 13:52:19.18 0 ID:: こっちに川口春奈だったら良かったのに
They should have cast Haruna Kawaguchi here instead

http://news-susume.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/img_245385_30951929_0.jpg
112：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 13:58:48.21 0 ID:: このドラマの剛力だけは悪くないよ
あくまでも悪くないって範囲だけど
Gouriki isn't bad in this drama.
But it's still in the region of "not bad".

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/konnnatv/imgs/3/1/313406fa.jpg
113：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 14:01:53.22 O ID:: 三億円事件はあんまり興味ないんだよね

沢渡と警察の裏組織だけでいいのに
I'm not really interested in the \300 million case.
They could've just kept it simple with Sawatari and his underground organization with the police.
115：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 14:04:28.37 0 ID:: クロコーチは面白いけど少しでも見逃すとついていけなくなるから視聴率悪いんだろうね
Kurokouchi is good, but it's hard to follow it even if you just miss a few points of the story, and maybe that's why the ratings are bad.
116：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 14:05:26.05 0 ID:: 毎週主要人物が死ぬからね
Because major characters die every episode
119：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 14:15:42.46 0 ID:: 原作も毎週のように誰か死んでる
Someone also dies almost every week in the original manga
121：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 14:17:50.38 0 ID:: 金10は視聴者層を絞りこまないで色々やってるから視聴習慣が付かない

前クールでやってたのは橋田壽賀子ドラマだし
It's because there's no definite target audience for Friday-10 dramas, and so the people watching aren't getting into a proper habit. Even the drama they had in this time slot last season was a Sugako Hashida drama.
125：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 14:26:39.35 0 ID:: やはりゴーリキー降下と言わざるを得ないか？

長瀬も地味に低視聴率キングだが
So can we really just dismiss it because of the Gouriki effect?
Nagase's also a low ratings king himself.
126：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 14:27:01.85 0 ID:: 三億円事件の真相に釣られて見てるのは俺だけかよ
Am I the only guy who watches this because I'm interested in the truth behind the 300 million case?
133：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 14:32:07.67 0 ID:: 原作面白いよ

今回の警官に襲撃されて返り討ちにするところとか原作の方が面白かった
The original manga is good.
This last episode where he was assaulted by the police and then took his revenge was better in the manga.
138：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 14:34:35.53 0 ID:: 面白いけどB層の主婦とか絶対にみないだろうなｗ
It's good, but the B-level housewives definitely aren't watching this w
146：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 14:37:13.71 0 ID:: これどうやって終わらせるんだろう？

何となく濁して終わりかな
I wonder how they intend to put an end to this.
Will they just leave things vague and end it on that note?
152：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 14:40:40.74 O ID:: クロコーチは味方が全然いないから味方が実は組織の人間だった的なおもしろさはないね
Kurokouchi doesn't have any allies at all, so you can't expect anything about having an ally who's actually a member of the opposing organization
154：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 14:41:37.93 0 ID:: 剛力の父親は本当に死んでるのか？

なんかラスボス臭いんだが
Is Gouriki's father really dead?
I get the feeling that he's the last boss here.
157：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 14:44:17.43 O ID:: 沢渡がJKを殺したって話がおもしろくてインパクトあるのに

そこらへんもっとやって欲しかった
The part where they were saying Sawatari killed the female highschooler was good and it left a strong impact, so I hope they focused more on that part
166：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 14:54:45.61 0 ID:: 原作キャラの性別変えてごり押しするのはジャニの得意技だったのに
But wasn't changing the gender of the character in the original story Johnny's specialty?; 168： softbank220008152023.bbtec.net 2013/11/23(土) 14:56:38.87 0 ID:

>>166
剛力詳しくないけどいつもキャラ改変してるらしい
I don't really know much about Gouriki, but the gender of the characters she plays apparently changes a lot
172：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 15:00:38.84 0 ID:: 黒執事も性別改変らしい

ビブリア古書堂の事件手帖はよく知らんけどキャラ改変したいわれてる

ガッチャマンはまったく知らんがなんかいわれてた
I heard they also changed the gender in Kuroshitsuji.
I'm not so sure about Biblia Koshodou no Jiken Techou, but people are saying that they changed her character there too from the original.
And I know nothing at all about Gatchaman, but they did say it was changed.

http://img.news.goo.ne.jp/picture/eigacom/m-38324_kuroshitsuji_gouriki_large.jpg?640x0
190：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/23(土) 17:54:23.14 0 ID:: タイトルが悪いよ
ゴキブリかと思ったもん
The title's the problem here,
I thought it was "Cockroach".