1: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 14:54:25.02 ID:N1PdmcdVO 長瀬はいい線行ってたのに To think that Nagase came so close
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/girokerogirokero/imgs/9/5/953c0bac.jpg
4: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 14:57:21.41 ID:lRqI6UPCP スマップの後継は嵐っぽいから松本 とかはどうだろ
It does look like Arashi is SMAP's successor, so what about Matsumoto?
5: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 14:58:14.03 ID:e/Xt8FwT0 木村だけじゃなくて、SMAPがあまりにもビッグになり過ぎ ジャニーズ史上で一番成功したグループやろ It's not just Kimura, I think SMAP just became too big. They've been the most successful group to ever come out of Johnny's.
I really don't think that there will be another group to come out that will surpass SMAP.
http://res.ent.ifeng.com/star/2252/12865075735740.jpg 6: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 14:59:18.95 ID:v1AEoelOO みんながキムタクの真似をしてキムタクが着ているものなどはバカ売れ Everyone just tried copying KimuTaku back then, and everyone bought everything he wore. No one can become like KimuTaku if their dramas don't exceed 30% per episode. https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRz8MATyfN_vvc9l4EEfFxPbmbmKsCePQ7CQKMcCScNIqKhiWIn
19: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:20:05.05 ID:k/VtDPe/0 >>6 But that was the bubble era when CD used to sell millions of copies right?
7: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 14:59:52.08 ID:PRBWdYdM0 キムタクの成功以来 グループの象徴を作るための一人ゴリ推し商法がヒドイな 亀梨・山田・中山・・・・・ After KimuTaku's success, their method of overhyping a single member in order to establish image of the group was so bad.
Kamenashi, Yamada, Nakayama......
http://trend-news135.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_4c3/trend-news135/E4BA80E6A2A8E5928CE4B99F.jpeg 8: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 14:59:55.63 ID:HfhbTyfT0 意外と二宮
It might be Ninomiya for all you know
http://yuriko-yoshitaka.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_0c9/yuriko-yoshitaka/20100509_1809853-8bbe9.jpg
12: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:08:08.89 ID:K/AB70bR0 >>8 Not a chance
10: 忍法帖【Lv=17,xxxPT】(1+0：15) 2013/04/30(火) 15:01:10.05 ID:tyM5wMH20 長瀬はドラマだけなら良い線だな 総合的だと木村に近い人間はいない If we're just talking about dramas, Nagase put up a good fight. But in total, there's no one who can touch Kimura. The biggest reason is that they're still marketing Kimura up to now. 11: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:07:06.78 ID:kUnpqghc0 瞬間風速ならタッキーや山P亀梨にもあった ただ演技が If you're just talking about momentary momentum, then Tackey , Yama-P, and Kamenashi had that.
But their acting was...
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiuHz4bBKzx_1WMXwUlz8oT5UpJ9LHyFYuuRAH7IzaKhQV6hNDzI8UpnK4Jnr3pT6c8tpGAPBAG7ixMMwVLgzU0eLVedMIL8OT0ZcZ1jWVp-vSLA15s3yhZFi6q_NXR3CSRRCuXpnmd4hwX/s400/Hideaki+Takizawa.jpg 14: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:12:34.01 ID:JO6TnLBY0 じゃあ中居や香取の後継者はいるの？ So do Nakai and Katori have successors? http://pic.prepics-cdn.com/takuya2711/8325840.jpeg
17: 忍法帖【Lv=17,xxxPT】(1+0：15) 2013/04/30(火) 15:16:21.55 ID:tyM5wMH20 >>14 まだまだ経験足りないけど関ジャニと嵐ならそこら狙えるんじゃないか
Kanjani and Arashi might be able to aim for that, but they still lack experience
http://dosukoidosukoi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Arashi-002.jpg/
18: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:18:16.93 ID:k/VtDPe/0 長瀬は大工って感じで土方成分が強すぎ Nagase looks like a carpenter, and has too much of a blue-collar thing going for him. Okada looks too dark, and was so small when standing next to Will Smith, but was the same height when they were sitting down, it was comical. Yama-P, Kamenashi, and Matsumoto are cool but a bit girly, so I think their path is different. http://ikemen-review.toypark.in/wp-content/uploads/d0023389_19473091.jpg 20: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:25:00.15 ID:kUnpqghc0 キムタクのCMで一番好きだったのこれだ小さい時に見たけどいまだに覚えてるわ I saw this when I was still young, but I still remember it VIDEO
21: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:28:30.03 ID:+7MzZjnf0 >>20 This is cool, but this doesn't make me want to do horse racing
23: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:35:49.49 ID:SvBQ9J3TP 長瀬というかTOKIO全体が異質 なんというかジャニーズっぽくない Not only Nagase, but TOKIO itself is pretty different. They don't seem like they're from Johnny's.here ) 24: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:39:35.32 ID:391mtaZb0 今の時代ドラマにコンサートに映画にマルチに活躍は望めない ドラマ → 生田 山下 長瀬 コンサート → 嵐 映画 → 岡田 生田 これで全盛期のSMAPに並べる Drama, concerts, and movies; you can't expect these idols to succeed in all aspects in this day and age anymore. Drama > Ikuta , Yamashita, Nagase Concert > Arashi Movies > Okada, Ikuta With this, you can be on par with SMAP at their peak. http://blog.chatta.jp/resources/member/002/114/0050937/MQuYul6G.jpg 29: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:50:38.35 ID:lIs0KGkT0 キムタク達が引退したら自然と出てくるよ The successors will just come out naturally once KimuTaku and co. retire 32: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 16:06:06.19 ID:nDtMrrub0 SMAPはメンバー全員が個々で活躍してるのがすごいな It's amazing that each member of SMAP is popular and doing his own thing 33: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 17:34:48.10 ID:ddlW4cZb0 SMAPのポピュラーさは異常 じいちゃんばぁちゃんでも知ってる SMAP's popularity is out of this world. Even my grandparents know them. 35: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 17:38:16.43 ID:QxGKJz2pP もうポストキムタクは現れないだろ。時代が変わりすぎた I don't think a "post-KimuTaku" will appear. The times have changed too much. http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/bobnews/imgs/5/6/56993611.jpg 37: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 17:44:55.63 ID:RdoxPZ06O キムタクより農業や大工の出来るポストTOKIOを育成しようぜ Enough with KimuTaku, let's develop a post-TOKIO group who can be carpenters and farmers
38: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 17:46:04.83 ID:391mtaZb0 >>37 I'll nominate Kanjani who started bringing out their instruments recently
http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/05232008/1/1/3/3/1133654aae5130_full.jpg >>38 Not recently, but from the beginning
39: 忍法帖【Lv=40,xxxPT】(1+0：15) 2013/04/30(火) 17:58:42.92 ID:ozyxdvH30 むしろSMAPの中で後継者現れそうな奴って稲垣吾郎ぐらいじゃね？ I think the only one who can have a successor in SMAP is Goro Inagaki 41: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 18:08:36.44 ID:fSu00CXhP 誰もなりたくないだろっていう But no one wants to be like him 47: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 18:39:43.21 ID:wWU0UFFVO まあでも、ドラゴンボールだって越える漫画はないって散々言われてたけどワンピが出てきたわけだし Well, everyone said before that no manga will ever surpass Dragonball, but Onepiece has emerged. Someone's bound to come up in the future.
57: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:05:32.68 ID:E9pZjFOB0 >>47 ワンピはＤＢを超えたかもしれないが 尾田が鳥山の功績を超えることはない Onepiece might have surpassed Dragonball, but Oda will never surpass the contributions that Toriyama has done
48: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 18:42:22.80 ID:9FLelCYS0 マジレスするとキスマイが虎視眈々と狙ってる
A serious response here, Kis-My is trying to aim for that spot
http://pic.prepics-cdn.com/kisumai0625/19758232.jpeg
50: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 18:50:13.05 ID:391mtaZb0 >>48
It was impossible even for Kat-TUN, are you loose in the noggin?
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/23431259/KATTUN+7.jpg
52: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 18:55:25.69 ID:EJe+XZFR0 キムタクってジャニーズっぽいが他のジャニーズとはまた違うな KimuTaku looks like he's from Johnny's, but he's actually different from the others. 61: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:12:31.55 ID:QxGKJz2pP 老けはしたけど顔の造形の良さはガチだと思う He has aged, but the shape of his face is really great. http://geinou-downs-synd.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_51d/geinou-downs-synd/2013-02-15_180728.png 64: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:16:41.65 ID:e+oxg+rP0 スペックなら長瀬が勝ってるはずだが なぜか長瀬は小物感が強い If you're just talking about the specs, I think Nagase wins. But he's just not the type who'll make it really big. http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRv1ql3U1VBusjfDN4Lq36s1ngweGRywlqN-dpxAwwRgbR6r-ot5Q 66: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:19:16.18 ID:zRp/z/gM0 長瀬は自分は事務所の売り方や期待とは違う方向に進んでみたかったし・実際に進んだ とかなんかで言ってたな Nagase wanted to move towards a different direction from how his agency tried to market him, and actually did that.Or so he said somewhere. 67: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:19:46.47 ID:DcU3xITq0 時代を引き合いに出すのはタブーだろうけど、 今キムタクが10代だったとして同じように人気は出るかな I know we shouldn't be talking about age here, but would KimuTaku be popular now if he were in his teens? http://matome.naver.jp/odai/2133911680345608101/2133912303046984303
70: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:22:12.07 ID:ZLWohEjY0 >>67 キムタクが人気出たのは20越えてから まぁ、今のジャニーズにキムタクほどオレ流貫ける奴いないから やっぱ人気出るんじゃない？ KimuTaku only started becoming popular when he was over 20. Well, I don't think there's anyone in Johnny's right now who can push through with how he really is, so I think he'll still be popular.
74: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:27:36.53 ID:E9pZjFOB0 >>67 バブル時代だからスターになったってのはあると思うよ 運も実力のうちだけどな Don't forget that he became a star during the bubble era. Luck is also a part of one's abilities.
77: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:29:55.07 ID:cAcCkIIC0 >>67 キムタク全盛期の時代と比べるとテレビの力弱くなったしな Compared to KimuTaku's peak, the power of TV nowadays has gone down.
79: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:43:16.15 ID:jpC0ZWyt0 テレビ大不況の時代だし、ネットの存在も相まって スターやアイドルの有難みが無くなってるから、もうキムタク的なのは無理だな We're in the Internet generation where television is on a decline. People now are less grateful to stars and idols, so I really don't think a second KimuTaku will appear. Original Thread http://hayabusa.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4vip/1367301265/
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If Akanishi hadn't been the laziest idol ever he could have become like KimuTaku, I think. He has the looks, the voice and the appeal. Too bad he's not a hard worker.
ReplyDeleteI think you are wrong... Akanishi ruined himself with that story with Meisa.
DeleteI agree with you...even now...people are still talking about...Japan has an obsession with him even if he doesn't do anything...that is called STAR POWER...
DeleteI know, that's why I said he could have become like KimuTaku if he had had a different work ethic. Like the other anon here mentioned, Jin's been out of the spotlight for more than a year, people apparently seem to hate him but they still speak about him/drag his name into everything all the time... this is not so common when it comes to other celebs!
DeleteHonestly,if Akanishi didnt leave KAT-TUN,maybe he would've been the next KimuTaku. But he gotten ahead of himself and now look at where he is.
ReplyDeleteBut Nagase is Nagase. He doesn't need to be somebody's successor, IMO.
ReplyDeleteI highly doubt Akanishi would have been the next Kimutaku. Even before him knocking up kuroki meisa. Aside from being stupid, he's a terrible actor. He may have had the look, but that's all he ever had.
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