Saturday, June 8, 2013

Will Takuya Kimura ever have a successor?



1: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 14:54:25.02 ID:N1PdmcdVO
長瀬はいい線行ってたのに
To think that Nagase came so close

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4: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 14:57:21.41 ID:lRqI6UPCP
スマップの後継は嵐っぽいから松本とかはどうだろ
It does look like Arashi is SMAP's successor, so what about Matsumoto?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qbE6ODsY92A/UYy2_-EPzMI/AAAAAAAAARM/_pTCthq4DKQ/s1600/Matsumoto2.jpg
5: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 14:58:14.03 ID:e/Xt8FwT0
木村だけじゃなくて、SMAPがあまりにもビッグになり過ぎ
ジャニーズ史上で一番成功したグループやろ
It's not just Kimura, I think SMAP just became too big.
They've been the most successful group to ever come out of Johnny's.
I really don't think that there will be another group to come out that will surpass SMAP.

http://res.ent.ifeng.com/star/2252/12865075735740.jpg
6: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 14:59:18.95 ID:v1AEoelOO
みんながキムタクの真似をしてキムタクが着ているものなどはバカ売れ
ドラマは常に視聴率30パーセント越えてなきゃキムタクにはなれない
Everyone just tried copying KimuTaku back then, and everyone bought everything he wore.
No one can become like KimuTaku if their dramas don't exceed 30% per episode.
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRz8MATyfN_vvc9l4EEfFxPbmbmKsCePQ7CQKMcCScNIqKhiWIn
19: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:20:05.05 ID:k/VtDPe/0
>>6
でもそれってCDが100万枚売れてたバブル時の話だろ?
But that was the bubble era when CD used to sell millions of copies right?
7: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 14:59:52.08 ID:PRBWdYdM0
キムタクの成功以来グループの象徴を作るための一人ゴリ推し商法がヒドイな
亀梨・山田・中山・・・・・
After KimuTaku's success, their method of overhyping a single member in order to establish image of the group was so bad.
Kamenashi, Yamada, Nakayama......

http://trend-news135.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_4c3/trend-news135/E4BA80E6A2A8E5928CE4B99F.jpeg
8: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 14:59:55.63 ID:HfhbTyfT0
意外と二宮
It might be Ninomiya for all you know
http://yuriko-yoshitaka.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_0c9/yuriko-yoshitaka/20100509_1809853-8bbe9.jpg
12: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:08:08.89 ID:K/AB70bR0
>>8
話にならん
Not a chance
10: 忍法帖【Lv=17,xxxPT】(1+0:15) 2013/04/30(火) 15:01:10.05 ID:tyM5wMH20
長瀬はドラマだけなら良い線だな総合的だと木村に近い人間はいない
いまでも木村しか推してないのが最大の原因
If we're just talking about dramas, Nagase put up a good fight.
But in total, there's no one who can touch Kimura.
The biggest reason is that they're still marketing Kimura up to now.
11: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:07:06.78 ID:kUnpqghc0
瞬間風速ならタッキーや山P亀梨にもあった
ただ演技が
If you're just talking about momentary momentum, then Tackey, Yama-P, and Kamenashi had that.
But their acting was...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sxNoc7H4C3s/TWEjwfA2pwI/AAAAAAAAAjI/E7RzaX0BW_M/s400/Hideaki+Takizawa.jpg


14: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:12:34.01 ID:JO6TnLBY0
じゃあ中居や香取の後継者はいるの?
So do Nakai and Katori have successors?
http://pic.prepics-cdn.com/takuya2711/8325840.jpeg
17: 忍法帖【Lv=17,xxxPT】(1+0:15) 2013/04/30(火) 15:16:21.55 ID:tyM5wMH20
>>14
まだまだ経験足りないけど関ジャニと嵐ならそこら狙えるんじゃないか
Kanjani and Arashi might be able to aim for that, but they still lack experience
http://dosukoidosukoi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Arashi-002.jpg/
18: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:18:16.93 ID:k/VtDPe/0
長瀬は大工って感じで土方成分が強すぎ
岡田は根暗なのとウィルスミスと並んだら背が小さすぎなのに座ったら同じ高さになってて滑稽
山Pや亀梨や松本はクールなナヨ系だから路線が違う
Nagase looks like a carpenter, and has too much of a blue-collar thing going for him.
Okada looks too dark, and was so small when standing next to Will Smith, but was the same height when they were sitting down, it was comical.
Yama-P, Kamenashi, and Matsumoto are cool but a bit girly, so I think their path is different.
http://ikemen-review.toypark.in/wp-content/uploads/d0023389_19473091.jpg
20: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:25:00.15 ID:kUnpqghc0
キムタクのCMで一番好きだったのこれだ
小さい時に見たけどいまだに覚えてるわ
I saw this when I was still young, but I still remember it
21: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:28:30.03 ID:+7MzZjnf0
>>20
かっこいいけどこれみて競馬やりたくはならないな
This is cool, but this doesn't make me want to do horse racing
23: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:35:49.49 ID:SvBQ9J3TP
長瀬というかTOKIO全体が異質
なんというかジャニーズっぽくない
Not only Nagase, but TOKIO itself is pretty different.
They don't seem like they're from Johnny's.
(Related post here)

http://www.tokyohive.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/20120304_DASH_TOKIO_600px.jpg
24: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:39:35.32 ID:391mtaZb0
今の時代ドラマにコンサートに映画にマルチに活躍は望めない
ドラマ → 生田 山下 長瀬
コンサート → 嵐
映画 → 岡田 生田
これで全盛期のSMAPに並べる
Drama, concerts, and movies; you can't expect these idols to succeed in all aspects in this day and age anymore.
Drama > Ikuta, Yamashita, Nagase
Concert > Arashi
Movies > Okada, Ikuta

With this, you can be on par with SMAP at their peak.

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29: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 15:50:38.35 ID:lIs0KGkT0
キムタク達が引退したら自然と出てくるよ
The successors will just come out naturally once KimuTaku and co. retire
32: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 16:06:06.19 ID:nDtMrrub0
SMAPはメンバー全員が個々で活躍してるのがすごいな
It's amazing that each member of SMAP is popular and doing his own thing
33: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 17:34:48.10 ID:ddlW4cZb0
SMAPのポピュラーさは異常
じいちゃんばぁちゃんでも知ってる
SMAP's popularity is out of this world.
Even my grandparents know them.
35: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 17:38:16.43 ID:QxGKJz2pP
もうポストキムタクは現れないだろ。時代が変わりすぎた
I don't think a "post-KimuTaku" will appear. The times have changed too much.
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/bobnews/imgs/5/6/56993611.jpg
37: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 17:44:55.63 ID:RdoxPZ06O
キムタクより農業や大工の出来るポストTOKIOを育成しようぜ
Enough with KimuTaku, let's develop a post-TOKIO group who can be carpenters and farmers
38: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 17:46:04.83 ID:391mtaZb0
>>37
最近関ジャニが楽器持ち出したから候補に挙げとく
I'll nominate Kanjani who started bringing out their instruments recently
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65: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:19:05.03 ID:xL6s1FqL0
>>38
最近じゃなくて最初からだろ
Not recently, but from the beginning
39: 忍法帖【Lv=40,xxxPT】(1+0:15) 2013/04/30(火) 17:58:42.92 ID:ozyxdvH30
むしろSMAPの中で後継者現れそうな奴って稲垣吾郎ぐらいじゃね?
I think the only one who can have a successor in SMAP is Goro Inagaki
41: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 18:08:36.44 ID:fSu00CXhP
誰もなりたくないだろっていう
But no one wants to be like him
47: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 18:39:43.21 ID:wWU0UFFVO
まあでも、ドラゴンボールだって越える漫画はないって散々言われてたけどワンピが出てきたわけだし
将来的にはでてくるっしょ
Well, everyone said before that no manga will ever surpass Dragonball, but Onepiece has emerged.
Someone's bound to come up in the future.
57: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:05:32.68 ID:E9pZjFOB0
>>47
ワンピはDBを超えたかもしれないが
尾田が鳥山の功績を超えることはない
Onepiece might have surpassed Dragonball, but Oda will never surpass the contributions that Toriyama has done
48: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 18:42:22.80 ID:9FLelCYS0
マジレスするとキスマイが虎視眈々と狙ってる
A serious response here, Kis-My is trying to aim for that spot

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50: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 18:50:13.05 ID:391mtaZb0
>>48
カツーンでも無理だったのに馬鹿なの?
It was impossible even for Kat-TUN, are you loose in the noggin?


http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/23431259/KATTUN+7.jpg
52: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 18:55:25.69 ID:EJe+XZFR0
キムタクってジャニーズっぽいが他のジャニーズとはまた違うな
KimuTaku looks like he's from Johnny's, but he's actually different from the others.
61: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:12:31.55 ID:QxGKJz2pP
老けはしたけど顔の造形の良さはガチだと思う
He has aged, but the shape of his face is really great.
http://geinou-downs-synd.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_51d/geinou-downs-synd/2013-02-15_180728.png
64: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:16:41.65 ID:e+oxg+rP0
スペックなら長瀬が勝ってるはずだが
なぜか長瀬は小物感が強い
If you're just talking about the specs, I think Nagase wins. But he's just not the type who'll make it really big. 
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66: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:19:16.18 ID:zRp/z/gM0
長瀬は自分は事務所の売り方や期待とは違う方向に進んでみたかったし・実際に進んだ
とかなんかで言ってたな
Nagase wanted to move towards a different direction from how his agency tried to market him, and actually did that.
Or so he said somewhere.
67: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:19:46.47 ID:DcU3xITq0
時代を引き合いに出すのはタブーだろうけど、
今キムタクが10代だったとして同じように人気は出るかな
I know we shouldn't be talking about age here, but would KimuTaku be popular now if he were in his teens?
http://matome.naver.jp/odai/2133911680345608101/2133912303046984303
70: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:22:12.07 ID:ZLWohEjY0
>>67
キムタクが人気出たのは20越えてから
まぁ、今のジャニーズにキムタクほどオレ流貫ける奴いないからやっぱ人気出るんじゃない?
KimuTaku only started becoming popular when he was over 20. Well, I don't think there's anyone in Johnny's right now who can push through with how he really is, so I think he'll still be popular.
74: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:27:36.53 ID:E9pZjFOB0
>>67
バブル時代だからスターになったってのはあると思うよ
運も実力のうちだけどな
Don't forget that he became a star during the bubble era. Luck is also a part of one's abilities.
77: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:29:55.07 ID:cAcCkIIC0
>>67
キムタク全盛期の時代と比べるとテレビの力弱くなったしな
Compared to KimuTaku's peak, the power of TV nowadays has gone down.
79: 以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします 2013/04/30(火) 19:43:16.15 ID:jpC0ZWyt0
テレビ大不況の時代だし、ネットの存在も相まって
スターやアイドルの有難みが無くなってるから、もうキムタク的なのは無理だな
We're in the Internet generation where television is on a decline. People now are less grateful to stars and idols, so I really don't think a second KimuTaku will appear.
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7 comments:

  1. If Akanishi hadn't been the laziest idol ever he could have become like KimuTaku, I think. He has the looks, the voice and the appeal. Too bad he's not a hard worker.

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    1. I think you are wrong... Akanishi ruined himself with that story with Meisa.

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    2. I agree with you...even now...people are still talking about...Japan has an obsession with him even if he doesn't do anything...that is called STAR POWER...

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    3. I know, that's why I said he could have become like KimuTaku if he had had a different work ethic. Like the other anon here mentioned, Jin's been out of the spotlight for more than a year, people apparently seem to hate him but they still speak about him/drag his name into everything all the time... this is not so common when it comes to other celebs!

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  2. Honestly,if Akanishi didnt leave KAT-TUN,maybe he would've been the next KimuTaku. But he gotten ahead of himself and now look at where he is.

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  3. But Nagase is Nagase. He doesn't need to be somebody's successor, IMO.

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  4. I highly doubt Akanishi would have been the next Kimutaku. Even before him knocking up kuroki meisa. Aside from being stupid, he's a terrible actor. He may have had the look, but that's all he ever had.

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