Sunday, July 28, 2013

What's the reason why Oscar Promotions get to push for their talents so much?


1: ケンシロウとユリア百式φ ★ 2013/07/18(木) 22:54:50.03 ID:???0
37 for the 3 of them combined--- That's the number of companies the 3 girls from Oscar Promotions, namely Aya Ueto, Emi Takei, and Ayame Gouriki, are endorsing based on the 1st half of 2013's commercial appearance ranking.

Emi Takei is endorsing for 15 companies, and ranks 1st among women, Gouriki endorses for 12 companies and sits at 3rd, while Ueto has 10 companies and is at the 5th spot. Another notable personality in the list is Rola, who ranked 14th last year and is now sharing the 3rd spot with Gouriki.
Last year, Tomomi Itano (8th this year) and Mariko Shinoda (2nd) were both 1st placers, while AKB48 dominated the list up to the 6th spot.
It's understandable that the AKB girls are popular, but what's with these Oscar girls?

A showbiz insider reports:
"Since both Emi Takei and Ayame Gouriki's dramas haven't been doing well, we can analyze that these 2 don't have passionate fans. Oscar is originally a modelling agency who mostly focuses on women. Their talents are not brought up like idols who always have to be conscious of the eyes of men, but as women who appeal to other women through commercials. Both Takei and Gouriki show off their pleasantness with their natural-looking make up. The agency is also pretty strict on their personal lives, as if having this silent understanding with its talents, forbidding them to have any romantic relationships until they reach 25."
Their earnings from commercials aren't that high too.

"Ueto earns 30~40 million per commercial. Takei and Gouriki only earn less than half of that. There's this sense of getting value for money, especially when you think about their presence in society."

Source: http://shukan.bunshun.jp/articles/-/2930

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8: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 22:58:28.89 ID:F+8obdDTO
ごり押し三姉妹
The 3 Gori-oshi sisters
11: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 22:59:22.77 ID:sp5pM/Po0
好感度というより、全部ゴリ押しだろ・・・
もうウンザリ
It's not about whether people like them or not anymore,  they're still going to be forced into the spotlight...
It's seriously irritating.
16: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:01:31.03 ID:ZXbc7m7b0
「CMタレント」
そういう分野を上戸は開拓したよね

最初に見たのはCMで、CM以外ではあんまり見ないし、
CM以外の仕事をほぼ評価されない
"Commercial Talents"
It seems that Ueto opened up that path.

I first saw her in a commercial, but I actually don't see that much of her outside of commercials.
All her other projects apart from her commercials haven't been receiving recognition.
173: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 00:34:13.04 ID:5Dt/EzoxO
>>16
>「CMタレント」
>そういう分野を上戸は開拓したよね

既に内田有紀や藤原紀香の頃からあったような
>"Commercial Talents"
>It seems that Ueto opened up that path.
That already existed even during Yuki Uchida and Norika Fujiwara's time.
387: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 06:45:07.88 ID:Nkuvg23M0
>>16
そのあたりは、石川遼も頑張ってる。
Even Ryo Ishikawa seems to be doing his best in that category.
22: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:03:43.44 ID:TKPh0ptk0
>>また、“25歳まで恋愛禁止”というのが暗黙の決まりと言われるほど、
>>私生活の管理も厳しいとされる事務所です

上戸は森田剛とつきあってたし
忽那も松田翔太とフライデーに撮られてるし
何言ってんだこいつw
>"The agency is also pretty strict on their personal lives, as if forbidding them to have any romantic relationships until they reach 25."
But Ueto used to date Gou Morita, and Kutsuna was caught by Friday with Shota Matsuda.
What the heck is this guy saying?
http://notrendnolife.jp/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/c905659cc14b020c85e62848096524da.jpg
26: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:04:09.12 ID:EoX0MJ6m0
菊川怜がCM女王だった時代からオスカーの薄利多売は言われてたじゃん
Oscar was already known as a company that has a business policy of "small profits and quick returns" even back in the day when Rei Kikukawa was the queen of commercials.

http://blog-imgs-55-origin.fc2.com/k/y/o/kyon2diet/kikukawarei1.jpg
30: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:05:15.95 ID:idyrOe5V0
>>26
今の菊川見るととオスカーがいかに凄いかが分かるな.
If you see Kikukawa now, you'd actually understand how amazing Oscar is.
94: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:32:46.98 ID:PmlDTM8XO
>>26 
オスカーは佐藤藍子からだって。 
They were saying that Oscar began with Aiko Satou though.
27: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:04:23.91 ID:GbDdqvrt0
経済学部のみなさん
これが市場の失敗です
Everyone majoring in economics, this is what you call a marketing failure
32: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:05:39.13 ID:5bs18AHw0
こいつらを使わない方が印象に残るだろ。
It'll actually leave a better impression on the consumers if the companies don't use these talents as endorsers
38: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:06:52.14 ID:aIWEzk7V0
ごり押しじゃなくて、安かったのかぁ
So they weren't actually being forced into the spotlight, their talent fees were actually cheap, huh.
44: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:07:50.32 ID:qmPLGXL80
オスカーは上戸や剛力のようなヒラメ顔が好きなんかね
It looks like Oscar loves flat, expressionless faces like Ueto's and Gouriki's

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/urageispo/imgs/3/e/3e6325f0.jpg
54: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:11:02.28 ID:MftBy13x0
>>44
その二人は似て非なる者
上戸ならこんなに叩かれなかっただろう
Those 2 might be similar to an extent but are still quite different from each other.
If it was Ueto in Gouriki's place, she wouldn't have been bashed as much.
51: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:10:50.68 ID:EoX0MJ6m0
菊川怜の全盛期は一人で21社だからね
During Rei Kikukawa's peak, she had 21 endorsements all to herself.
58: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:12:48.24 ID:AGGf3Izz0
露出しまくって実力と人気が揃ってるように錯覚させる

サムスン商法だな
They over-expose their talents and let the people get this illusion that their abilities are on par with their popularity. 
Same as Samsung.
59: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:13:34.07 ID:pz/SkP3C0
オスカーは元から超ゴリ押し
電通と組んでゴクミをゴリ押したけどあんな性格で実際に会うとCM断られてたじゃんw
それでもそこそこCM取れてたしな
あのクソガキのためにどんなやり方でどんだけ売り込みかけてたんだかwww
Oscar's always pushed too far for their talents.
They pushed for Gokumi with Dentsuu's cooperation but with that attitude of hers, she was actually turned down when they got to meet her in person.
But even then, she was still able obtain numerous endorsement deals.
I wonder how far they went and how much they did just for the sale of that shitty brat.

http://blog-imgs-27-origin.fc2.com/h/o/t/hotappp/891214.jpg
64: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:16:51.01 ID:1MYzpDVH0
電通が何か得するしくみなんだろ、オスカーだと
There must be some sort of arrangement that makes Dentsuu benefit from all these Oscar talents.
80: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:25:31.86 ID:0eEXiTHhO
上戸→特徴があって可愛い
武井→普通に綺麗だけど存在感はあまりない
剛力→変化球すぎる
Ueto > Has distinctive features, cute
Takei > She's pretty but has no presence
Gouriki > too much of a curve ball (baseball reference)
87: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:30:36.01 ID:lY67MO4e0
>>80
変化球というよりデッドボール
She's not a curve ball, more like a dead ball
92: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:32:03.61 ID:2Adbp5GQ0
この中でもめごっちの存在感が群を抜いてるな
But even among them, Megocchi's presence still rises head and shoulders above the rest.
104: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:37:30.81 ID:R9/9AEmZ0
オスカーの力の源泉は何処にあるのかを知りたい
ゴリ押しを否定しているオスカー擁護のマスコミ記者とかいるけど
いくら実力がある女優であってもここまで活躍の場が与えられるって異常なレベルだよ
仕事の数が違いすぎる
I want to know the origin of Oscar's strengths.
There are media reporters who deny and even support Oscar's methods, but even the most talented of actresses don't get this much exposure. It's insane, the number of projects they're getting is too much.
117: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:46:44.59 ID:xVCHGxul0
オスカー所属のテレンス・リーが何でCM1本もねぇーんだよwwww

ゴリ押しとか意味不明www
But what about Terence Lee who's with Oscar too? He doesn't have a single commercial under his belt wwwww
I don't understand these accusations of gori-oshi www

http://blog.movie.nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/2010/09/24/terence.jpg
118: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:47:15.54 ID:701sgP45O
大量のCMに出たところで視聴者的には「またこいつか」となるし、イメージキャラクター的として定着しない為、企業側のメリットにもならない
But even if they appear in tons of commercials, the consumers will just go, "This girl again?". And it'll be hard to associate them with a single product which does not merit the different companies they endorse for.
130: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/18(木) 23:55:47.00 ID:8Q0Yz2TuO
読む限り、特段変わったことはやってないようだが。
これくらいなら他の事務所でもできなくはないと思うが。
Based on my understanding, they're not doing anything particularly special. I think even the other agencies have the ability to do this much.
153: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 00:20:17.20 ID:On59Iovh0
剛力と武井は好感度調査、タレントパワーで圏外or何十位レベル
この露出量でこの人気のなさは異常なレベル
ゴリ推しいわれんのは当たり前でしょ
But when you look for Gouriki and Takei in the likable surveys or talent power rankings, they're either very low or not even in the rankings at all. This amount of exposure is just too abnormal when you see how unpopular they actually are.
It's natural that they'd be branded as overhyped.
159: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 00:24:17.92 ID:bgvbO35X0
めごっちも武井ちゃんも若年層には絶大な人気があるんだよな
げきおこしてるのはおばちゃんだけ
So Megocchi and Takei-chan looks like they're extremely popular with the young generation, huh.
And it's only the grandmas who are getting infuriated by them.
172: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 00:33:19.63 ID:On59Iovh0
>>159
全世代に人気のない剛力&武井
Gouriki and Takei are unpopular across all age groups
174: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 00:34:23.60 ID:lxkmpy8O0
ごり押しのオスカーっていうか、
推されない人たち山ほど抱えてるからなあ。
もったいない。
But Gori-oshi Oscar also have a load of talents whom they aren't even pushing for.
What a waste.
178: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 00:35:54.68 ID:zwLPIE9I0
ちゃんとドラマでも結果も話題も提供してる能年玲奈は全くCMで見かけない
偏りすぎでしょ・・・
And there's Rena Nounen who's genuinely generating the results and buzz because of her drama but does not have a single endorsement.
Things are just too one-sided.
209: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 00:47:21.73 ID:RJdieB4y0
>>178
去年からカルピスウォーターのCM出てる
朝ドラ撮影中は新しい仕事は受けられないらしいから
秋以降に露出が増えるんじゃね
She appeared in the Calpis Water commercial since last year. I heard that you can't get any new projects while filming the morning drama, so I think her exposure will increase from autumn onwards.

http://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20120727/10/bunocio/42/a3/j/o0321026912100992298.jpg
184: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 00:39:29.64 ID:9W4eIPv20
ゴーリキ どのCMも不愉快だ
印象に残ると言えばそうかもしれないが
All of Gouriki's commercials are disturbing.
Well, they do leave an impression on the viewer in that sense.
190: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 00:41:45.88 ID:On59Iovh0
剛力武井はもう何年も推してもらっててこのザマだろ?
何で事務所はあきらめないんだろ
意地にでもなってるのか?
元祖低視聴率師匠ゴリ推し上戸を諦めず推し続けたら成功したからそれを狙ってるのか
But Gouriki and Takei have already been hyped for a couple of years now, but this is the result, right?
I wonder why the agency doesn't give up on them. Is it pride?
They were able to succeed after overhyping the original low ratings queen Ueto so much, they might be trying to duplicate that success.
205: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 00:46:09.66 ID:qrSktqcl0
コイツラを使ってる会社は情弱企業と言うことだな
自分たちでは頭を使わず、広告屋の言いなりになってるんだろう
It just means that the companies using these girls as endorsers are misinformed.
They probably aren't using their heads, and are just following what the advertisers are recommending.
247: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 01:02:25.70 ID:8v9ORV8F0
人気がないから安い。
安いから人気はないが異常に使って
人気があるふりを捏造して使う・・か

ほんとTVって終わってるなw
They're not popular, that's why they're cheap.
They're cheap so they're being overused despite not being popular, so they make it seem like they're actually popular.
TV is finished.
253: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 01:04:30.64 ID:VWbutRCK0
>>247
それって韓国ドラマとかと同じジャン
やっすいんだろ?
That's the same as Korean dramas.
Cheap, right?
254: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 01:04:41.20 ID:ttECILnS0
昔のオスカーってろくなもんじゃなかったのにな
シェイプアップガールズとかいた頃は
But Oscar didn't have any good talents before, like during the time of the Shape Up Girls.

http://1990s.harikonotora.net/src/342-66.jpg
264: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 01:08:45.86 ID:VWbutRCK0
>>254
なんだよ、その頃に戻って欲しいわ
シェイプアップガールズ最高じゃない
What the heck, I want to go back to those times.
The Shape Up Girls were the best.
277: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 01:19:11.74 ID:5ZsZks4VP
押すと決めたらここまで押せる芸能界の一枚岩っぷりが怖い
I'm scared of the showbiz industry who can push this far once they decide on doing it.
297: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 01:33:36.38 ID:XjLY/w1i0
所属してる売れないモデルがま○らしてるからだろ
Because their other models who aren't popular are doing sexual favors.
300: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 01:39:45.20 ID:JyFQEKP60
彼女らも被害者といえる。
わざわざ嫌われる事させられてるんだから。
同じ顔を何度も見せられたらうんざりするって分からんのか事務所は。
They're actually victims too because they're being made into objects of people's hate.
Doesn't the agency know that people get irritated when you show them the same face over and over?
318: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 02:11:53.00 ID:alcfvLPj0
>>300
億単位の金もらって被害者はねえわ
しかもこれが何年も続くわけなら何軒もいえが立つ
上戸は親に家たててやったんだっけ?
I don't think they're victims when they're earning 100s of millions. And this continues for numerous years so they'd be able to have a number of houses built for them. Ueto was able to build a house for her parents, right?
329: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 03:03:41.04 ID:VWbutRCK0
上戸の場合はごり押しよりもそうかってのが嫌悪のポイント
In Ueto's case, she's more hated because she's from Soka Gakkai, and not due to her overexposure.
375: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 05:38:07.48 ID:ZGcqYkzd0
>>329
創価の人間が勝手に認定したってだけで
本人と事務所は否定してるんだろ
A Soka member just declared that, but she and her agency denied such allegations.
330: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 03:04:43.56 ID:FPYL/66o0
ああ、上戸はそれがあったか・・・
Right, Ueto had that issue...
379: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2013/07/19(金) 06:03:04.71 ID:bFxsGtvNO
オスカーの営業力はすごいと認めざるを得ない・・・
We just have to acknowledge that Oscar sure know their way around the ropes of the business world...



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