マジで!? MAJI DE!?: So why did JUDY AND MARY disband?

Saturday, November 23, 2013

So why did JUDY AND MARY disband?

1：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:40:44.24 0 ID:

いいバンドだったのに
To think that they were a really good band

http://livedoor.4.blogimg.jp/ainbekker-news2/imgs/7/5/755eabe7.gif

5：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:41:54.89 0 ID:

ギターの人がベースの人を殴ったから

Because the guitarist punched the bassist

12：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:43:43.27 0 ID:: >>5

それフェアチャイルドだっけ
Wasn't that FAIRCHILD?

7：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:42:25.37 0 ID:

ベースが枯れたんだっけか

Because the bassist just dried up?

http://www.hotexpress.co.jp/live_report/judyandmary/image/judymary_onda.jpg

13：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:43:51.34 0 ID:

元々寄せ集めのバンドで仲が悪かった

They were originally just put together, and they really didn't get along with each other

http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/0d/b0/227f0838b56522199d83d830fc5d12f5.jpg

14：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:43:59.62 0 ID:

ベースが宗教にハマったから

Because the bassist got too hung up with a religion

19：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:44:47.36 0 ID:: >>14

それブルーハーツ
That's The Blue Hearts

17：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:44:13.77 0 ID:

たくやと恩田が仲悪かったから

Because Takuya and Onda didn't get along

22：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:46:16.55 0 ID:

ギターが強姦魔だったから

Because the guitarist was a rapist

25：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:47:07.44 0 ID:: >>22

それ違うやつ
That's a different group

29：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:48:07.25 0 ID:: >>22

それヒスブル

寺の住職になるから
You're talking about Hysteric Blue.

Because he'll be the chief priest of a temple.

http://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/27/92/10109627916.jpg

36：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:49:11.68 0 ID:

ギターがYUKIをこましたから

Because the guitarist banged YUKI

http://www.yo.rim.or.jp/~shechan/shizuka/tv/enta41.jpg

42：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:52:25.44 0 ID:

売れたら解散すると最初から決めていたから

Because they had already decided beforehand that they'd split up once they become popular

44：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:53:05.87 0 ID:

元々1999年に解散すると宣言していたのだ

They had already declared that they'd split up in 1999

143：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:10:53.80 0 ID:: >>44

それ聖飢魔II
That was Seikimatsu

http://blog-imgs-60.fc2.com/x/x/x/xxxkaigaixxx/entry_img_9.jpg

45：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:53:09.78 0 ID:

ギターによるバンド乗っ取りでベースがやる気なくした

ボーカルはベースに恩があるしベースが辞めるなら解散するべってなった

ドラムは太鼓叩いてるだけただ散歩道はみとめる

Because the guitarist hijacked the band, which eventually made the bassist lose the will to go on.
And the vocalist was indebted to the bassist, so they just decided to call it quits if the bassist didn't want to go on anymore.

The drummer just kept a'drummin. But I accept his contribution of Sanpomichi.

47：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:53:46.38 0 ID:

TAKUYAの独裁体制になって魅力なくなった

They lost appeal once TAKUYA gained sole control of the group

49：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:53:56.33 0 ID:

ジュディマリいいよなぁ

WARPは最高のアルバム

JUDY AND MARY's really good.
WARP is the best album.

53：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:54:42.35 0 ID:

恩田より間違いなくタクヤ作曲以降のほうが曲は良かった

The songs made by Takuya were undoubtedly better than the ones made by Onda

70：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:57:31.93 0 ID:

ジュディマリはベースとギターが作曲で戦ってたんだよ

で古株のベースが枯れちゃって新人のギターがメキメキ成長して主権を勝ち取っちゃったからベースの心が折れて脱退したいって言いだして

じゃあ解散しようやってボーカルが言ったから解散することになった

ベースとギターの戦いこそがJAMのアイデンティティだったわけだ

The bassist and guitarist competed with their compositions.
Then the old-timer bassist ran dry while the newbie guitarist developed greatly and won control, which led to the bassist getting depressed and wanted to leave the group.
And when the vocalist said that they should disband, they did.
The power struggle between the bassist and the guitarist was actually the identity of JAM.

http://www.fujitv.co.jp/LOVELOVE/photo/profile_guest_judymary_23.jpg

77：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 21:59:52.53 0 ID:

ギターはYUKIが「ベースがやめるなら私もやめる」って言ったときめっちゃショックだったみたいだね

ギターはベースがいなくてもYUKIさえいりゃ続けたいって感じだったらしいし

I heard that the guitarist was really shocked when YUKI said "If the bassist quits, then so will I".
The guitarist apparently wanted to keep on going even without the bassist as long as YUKI was there.

88：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:02:04.10 0 ID:: >>77

元カレだっけ
He's her ex, right?

187：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:22:34.33 0 ID:: >>77

それはベースもそう思ってたみたいだな

まあどのバンドもみんなボーカルしか見ていないから当然だけど
The bassist thought the same way, it seems.
I think all bands just focus on their vocalist so that's to be expected.

81：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:00:58.67 0 ID:

今年YUKI以外の3人が集まって一緒に演奏してたな

The 3 members gathered again this year minus YUKI and played.

85：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:01:38.80 0 ID:: >>81

いつよ？
When was that?

85：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11 (月) 22:02:39.90 0 ID:: >>81
http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000094280

87：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:02:01.23 0 ID:

ベース才能なくなるなよー・・・

I hope the bassist doesn't run out of talent...

91：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:02:42.19 0 ID:

恩ちゃんはYUKIのこと好きだったんでしょ

On-chan was in love with YUKI, right?

94：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:03:36.76 0 ID:

TAKUYAも枯れたっぽいね

有名どころのプロデュースとか一切できてないもん

TAKUYA seems to have lost it as well.
He's never produced a single popular artist.

108：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:05:27.46 0 ID:

東京でバンドやるために恩ちゃんに抱かれたくせに、デビュー後にタクヤと付き合ったんだよ

しかも別れた後に妻子ある公太さんにも手を出して、上記のギターベースバトルと平行してバンドがダメになった

良いバンドだったのに、人間関係で再結成は絶対にありえなくなった

She made love with On-chan just so she can be in a band in Tokyo, then she suddenly goes out with Takuya after their debut.
And after they split up, she even approached Kohta-san who had a wife and kid, which happened while the guitarist and bassist battle was going on. This was the downfall of the band.
They used to be such a good band, but they will never, ever be able to reunite because of these relationship issues.

115：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:06:23.85 0 ID:: >>108

これまじで？

やりそうだけども
Is this for real?
It does seem like they'd do something like this, though.

116：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:07:06.10 0 ID:: >>108

デビュー前の動画とか見ると

この話がリアルに感じられるよな
And when you look at the videos before their debut, you'd actually feel that this story is real.

113：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:06:17.40 0 ID:

やっぱりそういうバンドって全員とやってるんか

So the girl really does it with all the members in bands like this, huh.

152：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:12:25.04 0 ID:

五十嵐とか恩田とかYUKIのこと嫌いだったんだろうなｗ

五十嵐とかインタビューで解散時にYUKIの連絡先教えてもらったけど一生電話かけることないって言ってたし

YUKIとTAKUYAが一時期付き合ってたしな

Igarashi and Onda probably hated YUKI w
Igarashi said in an interview after they split up that YUKI gave him her contact details, but he said that he will never call her for the rest of his life.
YUKI and TAKUYA even went out at one point.

http://www.fujitv.co.jp/LOVELOVE/photo/profile_allstars_igarashi_57.jpg

159：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:14:16.62 0 ID:: >>152

五十嵐はそういう風に強がって言っちゃうキャラだったんだよ

YUKIは五十嵐に一番悩み相談してたらしいしその２人は仲良かったよ
Igarashi was the type who'd act strong and say things like that.
Igarashi was apparently the one YUKI opened up to the most, and the 2 were really close friends.

169：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:16:58.71 0 ID:

もう解散してから約13年も経つんだな

早すぎる

So it's already been about 13 years since they split up, huh?
Time sure flies.

173：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:19:05.94 i ID:

YUKI以外はお金ないから再結成したいがYUKIは順調だから絶対しないよな

Everyone other than YUKI doesn't have money so they want to come back together, but YUKI's doing well on her own, so they'll never do that

174：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:19:06.04 0 ID:

バンドに女を入れるなってのはそういうことなんだよな結局

大昔の船に女を入れるなってのも多分そういうことなんだろ

And this is precisely why you shouldn't include a woman in the band.
This must also be what they meant with the saying "Never let a woman on board the boat" back in the day.

175：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:19:56.51 0 ID:

タクヤ恩田はジュディマリ時代の印税生活でしょ

Takuya and Onda are probably earning off the royalties of their JUDY AND MARY days

178：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:20:48.27 i ID:

でも一番はYUKIがタクヤに未練たらたらでかなり昼ドラ並みなドロドロだったから

The biggest reason is that YUKI completely hasn't gotten over Takuya, and things are as sticky as those noontime soaps.

179：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:21:16.48 0 ID:

バンド関係はだいたい女が原因でこじれる

Women are primarily the reason why band relations turn sour

184：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:22:20.44 0 ID:

YUKIのソロになってからまったく興味なくなって全然聞いてないや

けっこう順調なんだってね　

俺はバンドの4人が好きだったんだ

I totally lost interest in YUKI once she went solo.
But I heard she's doing quite well.
I used to like the 4 of them together as a band.

186：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:22:31.78 0 ID:

YUKI落ち目だろ

joy以降一般人の知ってるきょくない

YUKI's on the decline.
The general public don't know much of her songs that came out after joy.

188：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:22:58.50 0 ID:

金に困って１０年したら再結成すると思ってたが意外にしぶといな

I thought they'd come back after 10 years when they'd have money problems, but they're pretty stubborn, huh

198：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:25:16.36 0 ID:

絶対再結成しないだろうランキング

S　ボウイ、ブルーハーツ

A　ジュディマリ、イエモン

Ranking of groups that will probably never reunite

S - BOOWY, Blue Hearts
A - JAM, Yellow Monkey

199：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:25:23.10 0 ID:

けっきょく曲書ける奴に主導権が行くんだよな

So the control of the group will eventually go to the person who can write the songs, huh

211：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:27:17.30 0 ID:: >>199

当たり前だろw
Naturally w

207：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:26:18.03 0 ID:

TAKUYAが「悪いけどみんなと同じだけの金じゃあやってられないっすよ」

って言ったのが決定的だったみたいな話があるけど本当かね

I heard that the final blow was dealt by TAKUYA when he said that he didn't agree to just be receiving the same amount of money as everyone else. I wonder if that was true.

213：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:27:56.86 0 ID:

金か女で好きなバンドが解散するのは悲しすぎる

It really makes me sad when the bands that I like split up because of money or women

222：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:29:28.89 0 ID:: >>213

金と女以外の目的でミュージシャン目指す奴がどんだけ居るんだ
How many musicians are there who aren't after money or women?

229：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:31:56.44 0 ID:

TAKUYAは才能あるのかもしれんが人間性があれなんだろ

布袋と似たタイプ

TAKUYA may have the talent, but there's something wrong with him as a human being.
He's the same type as Hotei.

http://www.hotexpress.co.jp/live_report/judyandmary/image/judymary_takuya.jpg

243：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:35:01.22 0 ID:

TAKUYAも今じゃ反省してまたジュディマリやりたいとか思ってんのかね？

I wonder if TAKUYA has reflected on his actions and wants JUDY AND MARY to reunite?

244：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:35:25.61 0 ID:

ルナシーも金５等分で揉めて解散したな

Even LUNA SEA had issues with each member receiving equal amounts of money which led to them disbanding

246：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:35:58.84 0 ID:

そりゃ仕事量が全然違うのに同じ給料なんてやってられねーよ

逆に売れる程に自分が稼げない事に気付かされても

やる気無くなるだろうな

Of course, each member's amount of work is different from one another's, so it's really bullcrap if all of you receive the same amount. And when you notice that you're not earning enough even when you're popular, it will only make you lose the motivation to carry on.

247：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:36:11.54 0 ID:

カールスモーキー石井が何で解散するのって聞かれてみんな貰うもん貰って満足したからって笑って答えてた

そうとうモメたんだろう

When Carl Smokey Ishii was asked why they were disbanding, he laughed and said, "Everyone got what they came to get and have become satisfied".
They must've really fought with each other.

http://blog-imgs-53-origin.fc2.com/p/a/c/pachimelo/20130524094813df3.jpg

248：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:36:14.44 0 ID:

Mr.Childrenは桜井以外みんな同じ給料なのかな

I wonder if everyone other than Sakurai in MisChil gets the same salary

249：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:37:09.36 0 ID:

ミスチルは相当正確いいよな

I heard that MisChil's really got great personalities

280：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:52:03.29 0 ID:: >>249

桜井は売れたとたん貧乏時代支えてきた奥さんをポイ捨てしてギリギリガールズのロリキャラと再婚した鬼畜
Sakurai's this scumbag who abandoned his wife who supported him when he was still poor, and remarried the loli-character in Girigiri Girls

250：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:37:36.53 0 ID:

グループの顔作詞作曲調整役

これ以外だと圧倒的プレイセンスだが中々評価されないから厳しいよね

The face of the group, the songwriter/composer, the mediator.
Other than this, his playing sense is also immensely good, but it's tough since people don't see that too much.

252：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:37:39.10 0 ID:

今のバンドはボーカルのワンマンバンドばっかりだから

揉めて解散とかも少ないな

Most bands right now are like one-man bands of the vocalist, so there won't be too many cases of them disbanding due to arguments.

253：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:37:58.00 0 ID:

GLAYみたいに金に執着がないか

ミスチルみたいに才能ある奴以外は身をわきまえてるかでないとバンドは長く続けられないよな

Bands who don't have any obsession with money like GLAY, or bands whose members know their places (apart from the talented one) like MisChil are the bands who last long.

255：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:39:33.45 0 ID:

ぶっちゃけミスチルぐらい売れたら桜井以外でも

そこそこ売れてるバンドのコンポーザーと同じぐらいの金貰えるだろうから文句もないだろｗ

But if you're as popular as MisChil then honestly, the members other than Sakurai are probably earning as much as the composer of these moderately popular bands, so they don't have any complaints w

259：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:41:01.46 0 ID:

ギター練習するから俺もミスチルのメンバーになりたい

I'll practice playing the guitar, I also want to be a MisChil member

268：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:45:55.13 0 ID:

ルナシーはボーカルも落ちぶれて再結成できたな

In LUNA SEA's case, the vocalist fell from grace too, and that eventually opened the door to their reunion

269：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:46:23.42 0 ID:

ジュディマリはみんな作曲してるから今でも印税で暮らせるんだろ

Everyone in JUDY AND MARY composed songs so they're still living off their royalties

270：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/11(月) 22:48:13.88 0 ID:

ジュディマリは今でもカラオケで歌われるのが大きいよな

It's huge that JUDY AND MARY songs are still being sung on karaoke up to this day

321：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/12(火) 00:21:08.75 i ID:

恩田の居場所がなかったんやろな

TAKUYAに主導権握られて最後のアルバムにも曲は作ってたんだけど今のジュディマリに合わないからって不採用

の割にTAKUYAが恩田っぽい曲書いてる

妄想じゃなくてインタビューで言ってたよ

Onda didn't have a place in the band anymore.
Once TAKUYA got control of the group, he didn't use Onda's compositions for their final album, stating that they didn't suit the JAM sound at that time.
But TAKUYA himself was writing songs that sounded like Onda's compositions.
This isn't just an imagination, he said so himself in an interview.

331：名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/12(火) 00:29:06.77 0 ID:

TAKUYA曲書く才能はあったけど自分で歌う才能はなかったな

Takuya had the talent to write songs, but didn't have the talent to sing.

Original Thread
http://hayabusa3.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1384173644/

Shop for JUDY AND MARY-related items on CDJapan
Shop for JUDY AND MARY-related items on YESASIA

Shop the JUDY AND MARY store on AMAZON

マジで!? MAJI DE!?

Saturday, November 23, 2013

So why did JUDY AND MARY disband?

No comments:

Post a Comment