Considering the amount of their media exposure since the end of last year, why haven't their sales really picked up?
Rodo Mugen Otome Saraba GOUNN
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T *10,750 *13,308 *29,025 *31,889 39,882
W **4,420 **7,872 *15,607 *15,041 ***,***
Th **2,036 **4,197 **7,849 **7,918 ***,***
F **2,561 **3,944 **5,119 **5,333 ***,***
Sa **1,432 **3,452 **4,605 **5,838 ***,***
Su *18,187 **5,740 **3,522 **5,557 ***,***
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
To *39,386 *38,513 *65,727 *71,576 ***,***
Wk *39,976 *39,858 *67,596 *73,745 ***,***
Nov. 5 (Day 1 sales)
1. 46,536 Hottake BAND
2. 45,365 ℃-ute
3. 39,882 MomoClo
- 6: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:35:29.55 0 ID:
- あら思ったより売れてないのねOh wow, those sales are lower than expected
- 7: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:35:45.53 0 ID:
- あのジャケットは引くわwThat CD jacket is a turn off w
http://tower.jp/~/media/Images/Article/News/2013/Jacket/M/momoiro%20clover%20Z/GOUNN/MCZ_GOUNN_shokai.jpg - 9: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:36:11.80 0 ID:
- 初日最低5万はいくと思ったI thought that they would at least sell 50,000 copies on the first day
- 12: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:37:36.92 0 ID:
- 俺も5万はいくと思ったんで初動8~9万あたりかなとI also thought that they'd at least get 50,000.
Then their initial sales would be around 80,000-90,000. - 15: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:38:33.53 0 ID:
- 正直、テレビでの生歌の印象は良くなかったと思うHonestly, I think they're live singing on TV didn't give off that good of an impression
- 16: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:38:40.91 0 ID:
- 三回聴いたら飽きちゃったI grew tired after listening to it 3x
- 18: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:38:48.92 0 ID:
- なんか30万とか今朝までもののふが言ってなかった?wDidn't the Mononofus say until this morning that it sold 300,000?
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- 24: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:40:14.23 0 ID:
- >>18それはアンチだろw初動10万は期待してたやついると思うがThose were the haters w
I do believe that there were some who expected 100,000 for the initial sales.
- 19: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:39:05.71 0 ID:
- amazon在庫切れwOut of stock on Amazon w
- 23: 名無し募集中。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:40:07.71 0 ID:
- まあ、通常版売り切れ店舗続出と、DL配信で購入した層が多かったの2点が原因だろ。元々ももクロのCD販売数はこんなもの、、と言っても過去最高の初日販売数だし上等じゃないのか!I think the 2 biggest factors here are that there are a lot of stores that immediately ran out of stock and that there were a lot who bought the downloadable versions. MomoClo's CD sales have always been pretty much like this since before... And actually, this is their highest 1st day sales.
That's actually pretty good! - 26: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:40:59.20 0 ID:
- 品切れガー配信ガーちょっと前のモーヲタと同じ言い訳してて盛大に噴いたwwwwwwwwwwwwwOut of stock---
Downloads---
I'm LOLing so much at how these excuses sound so much like the MoMusu-wotas a while back wwwwwwwwwwwww - 27: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:41:19.77 0 ID:
- このままだと初動10万行かないままドームツアーにまで到達してしまうAt this rate, they'll be starting their dome tour without even reaching an initial sales of 100,000
- 29: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:41:59.83 0 ID:
- シングルださなすぎて飽きられたな3月頃出してれば売れたろうにPeople are getting tired easily because of the lack of new singles.
It would have probably sold a lot if it was released around last March. - 35: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:43:11.97 0 ID:
- コンサに行って盛り上がりたいミーハー情弱=CDを買うようなファン、ではないからBecause the uninformed bandwagoners who just want to enjoy the concerts are not the fans who buy their CDs
- 38: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:43:45.65 0 ID:
- ウィークリーは℃-uteに勝つよIt'll beat ℃-ute in the weekly rankings
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- 49: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:46:04.40 0 ID:
- >>38いや、負けるね勝てるとしたら2周目以降Nah, it'll lose.
Their only chance of winning will be from the 2nd week onwards.
- 42: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:45:06.92 0 ID:
- ももクロのCDは2週目以降ロングセールスだから(震え声Because MomoClo's CDs are long-lasting sellers from the 2nd week onwards
- 43: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:45:31.03 0 ID:
- アイドルブームの終わりが近いんだろMaybe the idol boom is coming to an end
- 47: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:45:54.42 0 ID:
- どうせ明日3万ぐらい数字乗せてくるんだろ?But they're just still going to get an additional 30,000 tomorrow, right?
- 51: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:46:08.81 0 ID:
- 普通に売れてるけどハロカス老眼で文字読めなくなったのか?It's actually selling well. Can't the Hello-kasus* with old eyes read anymore?
* (derogatory term for Hello! Pro fans) - 57: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:48:44.90 0 ID:
- だってここ1年ずっとつまんねえんだもん売れなくて当然この状態で紅白なんて選ばれても去年と違って全く嬉しくないBecause they've been so boring for the past year.
Of course they won't sell enough.
And if they still get chosen for the Kouhaku in this state, it won't be such a joyous feat unlike last year. - 60: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:48:56.95 0 ID:
- 日産がしょっぱすぎて、俺の周りでは何人か離れて行った。そういう人達を呼び戻せるようなシングルではなかったな。Because their Nissan concert was so lame, some people I know actually distanced themselves from the group.
And this isn't a single that would be able to bring those people back.
http://blog-imgs-47.fc2.com/m/o/m/momoclonews/aecfbb0a.jpg -
- 73: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:53:41.14 0 ID:
- >>60あんな糞高い値段であんな茶番見せられたらキレて当然だわスタンド前方席の人なら普通にしてくれてたら近くで見れてたって思うThere's no way people won't get mad after seeing that farce after paying such an expensive fee.
Even the people in the front rows of the stands would have probably seen them up close if they just did things normally.
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- 75: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:54:26.54 0 ID:
- >>60逆だw知り合いは日産で満足してヲタ卒したwIt's the other way around w
Someone I know got satisfied with that and graduated from being a wota w
- 62: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:49:29.66 0 ID:
- だから言うたやん安易な奇抜はファンすら引くよてThat's what I've been saying.
Cheap eccentric gimmicks will turn the fans off. - 67: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:51:21.90 0 ID:
- 俺のまわりアルバムだしたあたりからどんどんももクロから他界してる曲がつまらんからってPeople around me started alienating themselves from MomoClo since they released their album.
They said the songs are boring.
http://www.musicman-net.com/files/2013/04/f515c0f9f797e2.jpg - 68: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:51:27.46 0 ID:
- いままではオリコンずーとランクインして楽曲の力もあることを示したが 今作は何週持つんだろうかUp to now, they've always ranked in Oricon and showed the strength of their music. But I wonder how many weeks they'll last this time.
- 74: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:54:18.62 0 ID:
- 今年に入ってずっとおかしかったからなこれに懲りて反省したらいいんじゃない俺はもうどうでもいいけどThey've been weird since the start of this year.
I hope they learn their lesson from this and reflect on what they have done.
I don't care anymore, though. - 80: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:58:09.72 0 ID:
- ライブに行くのにCD1枚も買わないとかありえるのかIs it really possible that people who go to their concerts don't even have one of their CDs?
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- 84: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:59:18.31 0 ID:
- >>80ありうるももクロファンは10-20代メインだからCDプレイヤー自体を持ってないというケースも大量にあると思う5年後10年後はどのアーティストもももクロみたいな推移になると思うIt is.
MomoClo fans are mainly the people in their teens to twenties, so I think that there are a lot of these guys who don't even have a CD player.
I think all artists 5-10 years from now will have the same kind of sales as MomoClo.
- 82: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 21:59:07.35 0 ID:
- 1年ぶりのシングルだとワクワクしてたらドロップされたのはイミフな仏教ソングそりゃよほど信心深いモノノフじゃない限りランナウェイしたくなっちゃうよI was so excited that they were having a single after a year's wait, and they dropped this incomprehensible religious hymn-like song.
People would really run away from this if they're not deep mononofus. - 87: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:00:23.71 0 ID:
- むしろこんだけ滑りまくってよくヲタが付いてきてるよ感心するわI'm actually impressed that they still have a lot of wotas after failing again and again
- 94: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:06:32.03 0 ID:
- 明日の売上枚数が1万5千枚切るとジリ貧傾向だろうなIf their sales tomorrow will be less than 15,000 then they'll just gradually decline from that
- 102: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:10:35.16 0 ID:
- また握手でCD売る活動に戻るの?(´・ω・`)Are they going to have to resort again to handshake methods to sell their CD?
- 119: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:17:55.80 0 ID:
- サラバが紅白前なのに伸びなさすぎ10万超えてないといけなかったなので今回のは容易に想像できた"Saraba" was their Kouhaku song but its sales didn't increase at all.
It should have at least sold 100,000 units.
And that's why I was easily able to predict this sort of outcome.
- 124: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:18:42.26 0 ID:
- タイトルからして意味不明だからBecause the title in itself is already incomprehensible
- 144: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:23:29.71 0 ID:
- 初週は前作超えるだろうけど累計は前作より大幅ダウンだと思うI predict that the first week will exceed the previous single but the total will be much lower than it
- 147: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:24:08.78 0 ID:
- 労働 無限 Z女 サラバ GOUNN
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火 *10,750 *13,308 *29,025 *31,889 39,882
水 **4,420 **7,872 *15,607 *15,041 ***,***
木 **2,036 **4,197 **7,849 **7,918 ***,***
金 **2,561 **3,944 **5,119 **5,333 ***,***
土 **1,432 **3,452 **4,605 **5,838 ***,***
日 *18,187 **5,740 **3,522 **5,557 ***,***
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
計 *39,386 *38,513 *65,727 *71,576 ***,***
週 *39,976 *39,858 *67,596 *73,745 ***,***
Rodo Mugen Otome Saraba GOUNN
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T *10,750 *13,308 *29,025 *31,889 39,882
W **4,420 **7,872 *15,607 *15,041 ***,***
Th **2,036 **4,197 **7,849 **7,918 ***,***
F **2,561 **3,944 **5,119 **5,333 ***,***
Sa **1,432 **3,452 **4,605 **5,838 ***,***
Su *18,187 **5,740 **3,522 **5,557 ***,***
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To *39,386 *38,513 *65,727 *71,576 ***,***
Wk *39,976 *39,858 *67,596 *73,745 ***,*** -
- 170: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:31:21.38 0 ID:
- >>147売り上げ伸ばしてるじゃんて誰も言わないんだな元から売れてないSo no one's saying that their sales have increased, huh w
Well, they really haven't been selling well since before.
- 151: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:25:26.87 0 ID:
- 実人気と売れっ子扱いの差がありすぎwThe gap between what's really popular and what's being advertised as popular is too wide w
- 153: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:25:46.17 0 ID:
- 一般があんなジャケットのシングルCDを買うかなしかも売り切れ続出なんでしょ?買い時なくしてアルバム待ちするんじゃないのI wonder if the general public would really buy a CD with that sort of jacket.
And it's sold out in a lot of stores, right?
Aren't people passing this by and just waiting for their album? - 161: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:28:18.21 0 ID:
- 単純に曲がよくないてかそれ以前に実力のなさに尽きるIt's just that the song isn't good.
But it all boils down to how these girls don't have any talent at all. - 166: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:29:26.56 0 ID:
- ももクロちゃんは動員力で勝負してるんだからCDの売り上げは参考程度でしかないわMomoClo-chan are doing battle with concert ticket sales.
These CD sales figures can only be used as reference. - 183: 名無し募集中 2013/11/06(水) 22:35:42.50 0 ID:
- 前作ごえすりゃ十分だろシングル力入れてんならもっと出すし四種とかやるしIt'll be enough as long as it surpasses their previous single.
If they're really serious with their singles then they'd come out with more singles, and even come out with 4 variations and stuff. - 193: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:38:03.05 0 ID:
- ライト層が新しい面白いもの見つけたら終わりだねIt'll be the end for them once the lightweight users find something new and interesting
- 206: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:40:58.09 0 ID:
- 曲も衣装もジャケもだせーあんなんじゃ一見さんお断りでヲタしか買わないThe song, their costumes, and the cover are all so tacky.
Things like that would just drive away the casual consumers. Wotas will be the only ones to buy that. - 213: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:42:48.80 0 ID:
- 単純に飽きたそれに尽きるとりあえずまた返り咲きたかったら自分に酔ってる運営陣一新させろI just grew tired of them.
That's it.
If they want to make a comeback then they should first do something about their management who are full of themselves. - 221: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:44:27.96 0 ID:
- 一般層のファンならCDじゃなくDLするんじゃないか?Won't their more casual fans be buying the digital version instead of the CD?
- 246: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:50:20.18 0 ID:
- 単にエスニック色が強すぎたんじゃMaybe it just all seems too... ethnic
- 250: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:51:41.51 0 ID:
- モノノフの多くが立てたハードルが前作越えでしょ曲や衣装見てその程度のハードルしか建てられなかったって事だよ本音ではだめだとみんな思ってたThe hurdle that most mononofus have set is for it to just surpass its predecessor.
That was all they can manage after hearing the song and seeing their costumes.
Everyone probably thought deep inside that this wasn't good. - 254: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:52:34.08 0 ID:
- 大丈夫だ明日には5万の援軍が到着するから問題ないDon't worry, their support group of 50,000 will come tomorrow so there's no problem at all
- 269: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:55:49.19 0 ID:
- 十代の一番自然に輝ける時期にドリアンマスクとか仏陀とかもうアホかとThey must be stupid for wearing that durian mask and doing buddhist stuff in their teens which is the time that they can all shine the brightest
http://userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp/004/964/42/N000/000/002/136280148436913213009_news_large_momoirocloverZ_art_201303_ver3.jpg - 271: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:56:01.07 0 ID:
- 寧ろこの作戦しか選択肢がない実力がないからこそ奇をてらって糞みたいなチンドン屋スパイラル結果は今回の通りThis is actually the only strategy that they have.
They don't have the talent so they're just relying on their eccentricity and are just doing stuff like those loudly dressed street musicians.
And as you can see, this is the result. - 276: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:57:16.22 0 ID:
- 変化もたせるならセンターを変えればいいんよファンは夏菜子のゴリ推しワンパターンに完全に飽きてるIf they want some change then they should change their center.
The fans are totally getting sick of their single-minded approach of overpushing Kanako. - 286: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:59:47.71 0 ID:
- 要は押しつけがましいくクドいギミックにヲタが愛想尽かした感じThe bottomline is that the wotas have grown tired of their tedious gimmicks
- 288: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 22:59:55.75 0 ID:
- なんだサラバより売れているじゃんOh, but it actually sold more than "Saraba"
- 290: 名無し募集中。。。 2013/11/06(水) 23:00:12.58 0 ID:
- 前作超えしてるのに失敗扱いするのは無理があるわwThere's something wrong with you guys by saying it has failed while it has sold more than the previous release w
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