Atsushi Sakurai of BUCK-TICK is more of an ikemen than hyde, but why didn't they become popular?

1： 名無しさん＠実況は禁止です 2013/10/24(木) 08:55:00.32 ID:p7UCnrv8O

やっぱりBUCK-TICKの演奏が下手くそ過ぎたからなのか

Is it really because BUCK-TICK aren't good players?

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5： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:30:16.87 0 ID:

身長以外はハイドの方がいい

hyde is above him in all aspects other than height

6： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:31:04.52 0 ID:

出てきた時期の問題

バクチクがラルクと同時期に出てきていればどうなってたか分からない

とりあえず登場が早すぎた

The problem lies in the timing of their debut.
If BUCK-TICK came out at the same time as L'Arc, who knows what would have happened.
They just came out too soon.

7： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:32:00.33 0 ID:

なんか逮捕されたひとでしょ？

He's the guy who was arrested, right?

8： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:32:35.15 0 ID:

逮捕されたのはギター

That was the guitarist

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10： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:33:05.37 0 ID:

どっちのグループも逮捕者出してるな

Both groups have had members arrested

11： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:33:53.73 0 ID:

櫻井あっちゃんは昔ほんとに歌下手だったし

デビュー当時はボウイ最盛期だったし

Acchan Sakurai was really a bad singer back then.
And they made their debut while BOOWY was reigning supreme.

13： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:34:23.13 0 ID:

hydeの若い頃は女と見間違うくらい華奢で美少年だったけど櫻井敦司は普通にイカツかった

hyde used to be a delicate pretty boy who could even pass for a girl, but Sakurai has always looked like a rugged man 

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19： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:36:01.35 0 ID:

まぁ武道館でコンサートしてるし成功はしてるでしょバクチク

Well, BUCK-TICK did have a concert at the Budokan, you can say that they've succeeded

20： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:36:18.68 0 ID:

女は男臭い顔より女っぽい顔が好きだから

Because women prefer men who look more like woman than these manly, rugged types

22： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:37:33.41 0 ID:

hydeはタモリが惚れちゃうくらいの美少年だからね

hyde's such a pretty boy that even Tamori has fallen for him

24： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:38:26.60 0 ID:

ツベにあるけどあっちゃんがテレフォンショッキングでた回のやつ面白い

The one where Acchan was on Telephone Shocking was good, it's on YouTube

30： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:39:34.10 0 ID:

>>24

あの時のあっちゃん美しすぎるよな

Acchan was so beautiful that time

25： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:38:35.65 0 ID:

櫻井敦司はセクシー

hydeはプリティ

Atsushi Sakurai is what you call sexy.
hyde is pretty.

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31： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:39:50.76 0 ID:

あとペニシリンのハクエイとギショーも男前

Pennicillin's Hakuei and Gisho are also handsome

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33： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:40:07.17 0 ID:

ハイドはどんどんちっちゃいおっさん化してるけど

魔王さまは今も不気味なイケメンだよ

Hyde is just turning into this puny old man but Maoh-sama* is still an eerie ikemen up to now
* (魔王 or Maoh = Demon King)

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34： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:40:09.52 0 ID:

マジレスすると歌が一般受けするジャンルじゃないから

V系で一番受けるのはGLAYみたいな路線

Seriously now, I don't think their songs appeal that much to the general public.
What appeals the most among visual-kei are the likes of GLAY.

35： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:40:41.95 0 ID:

ジュンスカやユニコーンと売上競ってたイメージ

I've always had an image of them going up against JUN SKY WALKERS and Unicorn in CD sales

37： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:42:03.98 0 ID:

背も180あるかはわからんが確実に175くらいはあるしな

日本が世界に誇れるイケメンだったよな若い時の櫻井は

I'm not sure if he's 180cm tall, but he's definitely about 175. A young Sakurai was an ikemen that Japan could have bragged about to the rest of the world.

38： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:42:38.97 O ID:

魔王様は世を忍ぶ仮の姿でもイケメンのオッサンなんだぞ

Even Maoh-sama's temporary form when he hides in this world is an ikemen old guy

40： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:42:48.01 0 ID:

櫻井敦司は冨樫の漫画に出てきそうだな

Atsushi Sakurai looks like someone who'd appear in Togashi's mangas

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41： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:43:23.57 0 ID:

>>40

このあっちゃんはいけてないあっちゃん

This Acchan is an uncool Acchan

42： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:43:38.56 0 ID:

日本人離れしてる

He's not on the level of your normal Japanese man anymore

43： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:43:51.61 0 ID:

肌白過ぎぃ！

His skin is so white!

44： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:44:37.30 0 ID:

笑っていいともに出た時の動画がすごすぎた

女かと思うくらい美しかった

The video of him on Iitomo was so amazing.
He was so beautiful, one would even think he's a woman.

45： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:45:01.77 0 ID:

あっちゃんは若い頃はキレイだったけどキレイなだけって感じで

今のほうが独特の味も加わってかっこよくて好き

Acchan was so beautiful when he was young, but that was it.
He now has a distinct flavor to his face and he looks so cool.

http://www.officiallyjd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/20120325_hyde_58.jpg

46： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:45:35.24 0 ID:

こいつは目つきが悪過ぎるんだよ

女から人気が出るタイプじゃない

This guy has nasty looking eyes.
He's not the type who'd be popular with women.

49： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:46:03.82 0 ID:

大きく売れる感じじゃないよな

固定客向けっていうか

だから長く続けていけてるんだろうけど

It didn't feel like they would ever be popular to a broader audience.
It feels that they were aimed more towards a core set of fans.
But that's the reason why they've been able to withstand the test of time.

50： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:47:19.14 O ID:

最初は下手に聞こえるが意外と真似できない歌声の持ち主

He may sound horrible at first, but he actually possesses a voice that can't be copied that easily

51： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:47:19.89 0 ID:

武道館どころか東京ドームでもやったが

Not just the Budokan, they also had a concert at Tokyo Dome

52： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:47:21.19 0 ID:

櫻井って氷室にお前は顔が良いからヴォーカルをやれっていわれたんだよな

それまではドラムだった

Himuro once told him: "You've got a good face so you should be the vocalist".
He used to be the drummer until then.

55： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:48:39.58 0 ID:

>>52

あれがドラムじゃたしかによっぽどイケメンばかり揃えないとバンドのバランス悪すぎるw

I see, the balance of the band would've been horrible if someone like him was the drummer unless they gathered other ikemens for the other positions

56： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:49:37.47 0 ID:

hydeは売れないとやりたいこと出来ないじゃんって気付いて売れるような曲を作れたからじゃね

プロでやる以上セールスも重要だ

みたいのこと言ってるし

Maybe it was because hyde realized that he can't do what he wanted unless they sell well so they made songs that would appeal more to the general public.
He even said that sales is also important if you want to become a pro.

58： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:50:02.17 0 ID:

日本三大イケメン

Japan's 3 greatest ikemens

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61： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:52:18.91 0 ID:

>>58

おう、三段オチやめろや

Hey now, cut it out with that 3-level punchline

73： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:02:46.95 0 ID:

>>58

不覚にもオチでワロタ

LOL'd at the punchline

65： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:56:51.02 0 ID:

上二人は近寄りがたいね

The 2 on top look hard to approach

66： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:57:03.34 0 ID:

櫻井はカッコいいけど怖い

Sakurai is handsome but he's scary

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68： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 12:59:37.96 0 ID:

櫻井敦司は177cmとそれなりにデカいし目付きが悪いから威圧感がある

hydeは美少年過ぎて男としてみれない

つんくはキモいくさい●ね

Atsushi Sakurai stands 177cm and is pretty huge. He's got nasty-looking eyes so he's intimidating.
hyde is too much of a pretty boy, I just can't see him as a man.
Tsunku is gross and smelly. Die.

69： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:00:32.27 0 ID:

ヒット曲がないそれだけ

悪の華1曲だけで20年やってる

It's because they don't have a hit song.
They lived off "Aku no Hana" for 20 years.

77： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:04:16.00 0 ID:

今井とアニィがもっと上手かったらまた変ってたんだろうな

Things would have probably been different if Imai and Anii were musically better

82： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:06:33.06 0 ID:

ドンピシャ世代だけどなんか病んだイメージがあった

あれは一般受けはしないだろ

speedって曲も歌詞がモロだしさ

I was smack in that generation, but it felt like they were like drug addicts or something.
That would have never been accepted by the mainstream.
Especially the song "speed", the lyrics of that was just...

84： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:08:34.97 0 ID:

>>82

しかもアレ今井が復帰一作目っていうw

And to think that this was their first song since Imai came back to the band w

83： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:06:53.19 0 ID:

一時期ジョニーデップにかなり寄せてたよね

実際うりふたつだったけど

There was a point when he was trying to look like Johnny Depp.
But they actually do look alike.

87： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:10:45.65 0 ID:

まあジャニーズもちんちくりんな方が人気あるしな

威圧感がないからいいんだろう

You can tell even in Johnny's that the runts are more popular.
The ones who look intimidating aren't popular.

85： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:09:02.95 0 ID:

私服のセンスのせいなんじゃね？

He's got a bad fashion sense, right?

93： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:12:11.15 0 ID:

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わろた

LOL

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107： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:34:07.94 0 ID:

>>93

魔王様美しい

Maoh-sama's so beautiful

106： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:33:25.94 0 ID:

美形だとヒゲも似合うしズルイ

Even facial hair looks good if you're beautiful, it's unfair

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108： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:39:36.68 0 ID:

>>106

いやキモいだろこれは

Nah, this is gross

94： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:12:24.66 0 ID:

あれだけ唄も演奏もヘタクソなのにあの時代の数少ない生き残りなんだからすげえよ

To think that the singing and playing is so bad, they're truly amazing since they're one of the few survivors to come out from that era

96： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:14:34.12 0 ID:

昔はほんとに歌下手だったけど最近はだいぶ上手になったよあっちゃん

Acchan was truly a horrible singer in the past, but he has gotten better these days

101： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:19:44.34 0 ID:

声が良いと割と何とかなるからな

Things will eventually pan out well as long as you've got a good voice

110： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 13:51:39.08 0 ID:

hydeって顔だけじゃなく声質もすごく良いからな

歌手なら曲の良さと歌の上手さもやっぱ重要だよ

But hyde isn't just about his face, he's also got an amazing vocal quality. So as a singer, you still need good songs and a good voice.

112： 名無し募集中。。。 2013/09/30(月) 15:46:20.52 I ID:

デビュー当時は下手なのはボーカルだけじゃなかったからなあ

ギターもベースもドラムも何もかもへたくそだった

It wasn't just the vocals that was bad when they made their debut.
The guitar, the bass, the drums, everything was bad.

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