Was there a band who were bigger sellouts than Remioromen?
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考えるのは、ロキノン厨だけじゃね？
I think that only these Rockin'on brats are the ones who think that Remioromen = sellouts
- 4: 名無しのエリー 2012/07/26 18:45:21 ID:ETr4BChm0
- >>3朝顔の頃を知らないヤツがよく言ってる
That's something people who don't know them from their Asagao period would say
死語かもしれないけど175Rとかも。
It did feel like Remio was manipulated. It's like they were killed off by those fairweather fans.
I think that's also true for 175R, but I think they're obsolete already.
こんなバンドが伝説化されてる時点で
バンドの商業主義化は邦楽の伝統と言える
But I think BOOWY was the band who sold out and catered the most to commercial music.
Just seeing how a band like this is being regarded as a legend just goes to show that commercialism has always been a tradition in Japanese music.
アリーナツアーやる時期が早かったし粉雪あたりから一リットルの涙の劇中でも妙にプッシュされててレコ社と烏龍舎のどちらが主導かまで知らんが売り急いだ感じあったなぁ。
ホライズンで離れたファンも結構いると思うのよ。
It's not just the fault of these bandwagoners.
Remio did arena tours too soon for their own good, then they were pushed so much during the time of "Konayuki", and even within the drama 1 Litre of Tears; it felt like their record company or Oorong-sha, whichever was in control, was in panic mode to make these guys profitable, pronto.
And I think that they also had a lot of fans who gave up on them with the album Horizon.
L⇔Rとかエレカシとか
There used to be a time before when these bands who moved to Pony Canyon would just suddenly started becoming commercial, like L⇔R and EleKashi (* THE ELEPHANT KASHIMASHI).
実際クソみたいな曲しか作れなかったんだから売れなくて当たり前
The fact that "Konayuki" was the only song that truly became popular even after all that promoting is a good sign that the fans have developed a taste in music. Truth is they only made crappy songs, so it's not a surprise that they didn't sell.
It seemed that Fujimaki's solo live sets at all those festivals were badly attended...
あれは明らかに間違ってたと思う
がなりたてるだけのへたくそな歌をお茶の間に撒き散らして拒否反応
There was a point when they were really being forced into these commercial tie-ups.
I think that was obviously the wrong way of doing business.
Did they really expect that bad singing of his where he just kept yelling would bode well with the general public?
本人が商業主義に魂売ったってのもあるんだろうが
サザンにはなれなかったな
スピッツ路線で行けば長生き出来たかもしれんけど
True, they made a mistake in promoting the band.
Well, it's also their fault for selling their souls to commercialism, but they couldn't quite follow the blueprint which SAS has laid down.
If they just followed the path that SPITZ took then they probably could have survived a bit longer.
あの一曲がバカ売れしたばかりに、人生が狂った。
They probably would have been able to keep doing their activities at a good pace if it wasn't for "Konayuki".
Their lives were just brought to distraught no thanks to how huge that song became.
今やロックフェスで浮く存在だし粉雪前のファンはいなくなったし
People called them "post-SPITZ" at the beginning, right?
Now they just stick out like sore thumbs in rock festivals, and they don't have the fans they had anymore prior to "Konayuki".
だけど普通にロックバンドやってだらだら活動するよりも
3月9日と粉雪っていうおそらく後世に語り継がれるような曲作れたんだから
それでいいんじゃない？って気がするけど。
クラシックの作曲家でも後世に残るような曲1,2曲作れたらバンザイって感じなんだよ
自分は今のレミオロメンで正解だったと思う。
I wonder?
But instead of dragging on, being a normal rock band; at least they were able to leave songs like "Sangatsu Kokonoka" (March 9) and "Konayuki" behind which will be passed on to future generations, so isn't that fine as it is? That's what I think.
Even classical composers would be happy to just leave behind 1 or 2 songs as a legacy. I personally think what Remioromen did was right.
あれだけ下手なのにCMまで出て歌って、身の程知らずに見えた
I'm serious, they're horrible.
And as if that wasn't enough, they even sing in commercials, and they seemed like they just didn't know their place.
3月9日とか声域に無理のない口ずさみやすい歌のほうが声の持ち味活かせてたのに。本来スピッツ路線なのにミスチル路線で行ってしまった印象。
It was so disappointing how they kept appearing all over TV, yelling like that despite not being too good at singing.
I think songs with low, plausible vocal ranges like 3gatsu Kokonoka would have been able to feature his vocal characteristics more prominently. It looked to me like they were supposed to go down the SPITZ road, but they decided to make a detour and progress through the MisChil road.
Did their song "Island" refer to stuff like this?
今度藤巻ライブ大阪行くけどどうしてこうなってしまったんだろう感が強すぎる
フェスタとか雨上がりみたいなアルバムの曲をまた3人でやってほしいや
I love that song "Island".
I'll be going to Osaka for Fujimaki's concert, but I still can't help but feel for him seeing how things just turned out like this. I hope the 3 of them make album songs like "Festa" and "Ameagari" once again.
少なくともレミオロメン末期よりはだいぶマシ
I saw his solo on WOWOW, but it was better than expected.
At least he was much better than the final days of Remioromen.
レミオロって、音楽的素養も才能もないのに
スピッツの形だけマネして偶然当たっただけだろ
だから実力が試される長丁場では
化けの皮が剥がれて続かなかったわけさ
Remioromen has no musical fundamentals nor talents, yet they just tried copying SPITZ and they just got a lucky hit, right? That's why their secret was blown out of the water during the long stretch where one's talents are tested.
スピッツの形だけマネして偶然当たっただけだろ
だから実力が試される長丁場では
化けの皮が剥がれて続かなかったわけさ
Remioromen has no musical fundamentals nor talents, yet they just tried copying SPITZ and they just got a lucky hit, right? That's why their secret was blown out of the water during the long stretch where one's talents are tested.
- 51: 名無しのエリー 2012/10/07 20:13:46 ID:WNCTZT1IO
- >>50初期の叙情的な世界はスピッツみたいにひねくれてもないレミオなりの良さがあったよ。
どちらかというとスピッツ的なバンドなのにミスチル的なバンドになろうとした、仕立てようとしたとこがこのバンドの不幸だったと思う。
But their initial lyrical phase wasn't as warped as SPITZ's, and they had their own appeal.
It was more of them trying to imitate MisChil even though they were a band that resembled SPITZ more. That was their misfortune.
Fujimaki finally got out of commercialism with his solo efforts
They are the people who were a bit too late in returning to their roots
But complaining how some bands are sell-outs is just jealousy on the part of the unpopular bands, right?
CDJも夏フェス同様ガラガラだった…
CDJ was empty too, just like the summer festival...
CDJ was empty too, just like the summer festival...
シドとかも酷いぜ
メジャーに行ってPOP化するバンドの典型
SID was a horrible case of that too.
They suddenly turned POP once they made their major debut.
それが日本
You sign a major deal, given a large amount of money, then the producer kills off all your good points, and then throws you away once you don't sell anymore.
That's Japan for you.
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