マジで!? MAJI DE!?: Has MomoClo really lost momentum?

Sunday, October 6, 2013

Has MomoClo really lost momentum?

1：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 14:48:36.71 0 ID:

ファンの選民思想
Because their fans are elitists

http://stat.news.ameba.jp/news_images/20120322/14/82/a5/j/o09550666post-32692_t.jpg

2：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 14:49:38.76 0 ID:

いつ失速したん？

Uhh, when did they lose steam?

4：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 14:50:06.44 0 ID:

アンチのせい

It's the haters' fault

5：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 14:50:41.05 0 ID:

アンチが増えたから人気が出たってモノノフは喜んでたじゃねーか

But these mononofus* are happy that they became popular due to the increasing number of their haters.
(* hardcore Momoclo fans)

http://p.twpl.jp/show/large/IFhji

6：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 14:52:23.77 0 ID:

「全力」という言葉にかまけて一向に向上しないパフォーマンス

Because they're so caught up by the word "Zenryoku"* yet their performances haven't been improving
* (full throttle; everything we've got)

9：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 14:53:42.38 0 ID:

普通に飽きた

I just grew tired of them

11：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 14:54:19.82 0 ID:: >>9

それだ
That's it

14：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 14:55:23.39 O ID:

ただ全力と言ってりゃそれでいいという安易さ

Because of their easygoing ways of thinking that they can get by just by giving everything they've got

18：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 14:57:49.99 0 ID:

前山田がいなくなると、あれ？ただの汗だくのブスじゃね？ってなったから

Because without Maeyamada, I just realized that they were just a bunch of sweaty, ugly girls

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/momoclomatomechannel/imgs/6/7/671fbdbd.jpg

19：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 14:57:58.07 0 ID:

赤もよく見りゃ微妙だし

歌が絶望的に下手ジャイアンレベル

When you take a close look at Red, she isn't really that cute.
And their singing is just hopelessly bad, on the same level as Gian*.
*(character in Doraemon)

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg357aSxSu3JSoNNu_oybNjha1K-7zIfuXhpeQ5DubOBG7sKcAsICcaE5ujQqMdksj4ZkfUckWKlRnW3FQ9B2lhQ-YiqbZmWmcASvVgb2gVBNmN9cu0R2knkJiryA_MhO_QX2aDB83NJf0T/?imgmax=800

20：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 14:58:16.71 0 ID:

乙女戦争以降の糞曲の量産

Because of the the bad string of songs they came out with after "Otome Sensou"

21：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 14:58:51.08 0 ID:

子ども人気に繋がらなかったからじゃないかな

Maybe they didn't become too popular with the kids

22：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 14:59:25.52 0 ID:

TV出演で滑りまくり

音楽の日の中居で止めさされたな

Because of the way they've been choking on their TV appearances.
And Nakai just finished them off during Ongaku no Hi.

24：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:00:10.11 0 ID:

全然失速してないな

動員着実に積み上げてる

No, they haven't slowed down at all.
In fact, their ticket sales have definitely been going up.

27：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:03:59.21 0 ID:

動員も売上も上がってるから失速はしてない

けど去年感じた国民的アイドルになれる予感みたいなのは無くなりつつあるよね

Their concert attendance and CD sales are going up, so they haven't lost steam yet.
But the feeling I had last year that they will become national idols is slowly fading away.

32：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:08:41.87 0 ID:

時速三百から百八十に失速

なのに誰も後ろから差を詰めてきません

It just feels like they slowed down from 300 kph to 180 kph.
But still, it doesn't seem like anyone is catching up to them.

35：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:10:24.82 0 ID:

次のシングルは間違いなく前作割れだろうな

The sales of their next single will undoubtedly be lower than the previous one

39：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:13:20.98 0 ID:

アンチが頑張っている限り加速中だな

アンチの多さは人気の裏返し

As long as the haters keep hating, then they'll just continue accelerating.
The number of haters is indicative of one's popularity after all.

44：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:16:36.46 0 ID:

案外これからが面白いかもしらん

他ヲタにとってはｗ

Actually, things might become more interesting from here.
Especially for the wotas of other groups w

46：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:16:57.69 i ID:

国民的キャラクターになるかと思ったけどPerfume路線？にのった感じだね

I thought they'd become our national idols, but it feels like they're heading down the same path as Perfume

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/momoclomatome/imgs/3/3/337f062b.jpg

51：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:20:48.33 0 ID:

新しいことをやってるはずなのに

またこれか感

They're supposed to be doing fresh new things, yet everything feels like you've already seen it somewhere

59：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:24:12.76 0 ID:

芸能人のステマが酷かったな

The way other celebrities have been doing stealth marketing favors for them has been horrible

64：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:25:21.85 0 ID:

さんまの番組でしか見たこと無いけどももクロは飽きる。

これは断言できる。

I've only seen them on Sanma's program, but MomoClo can get very tiring.
This I can declare.

67：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:26:21.71 0 ID:

将来が見えない

I can't see what the future has in store for them

70：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:27:10.80 0 ID:

年末の紅白に向けて加速中

They're accelerating towards the Kouhaku festival at the end of the year

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/momoclomatome/imgs/4/9/492a2cc7.jpg

73：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:31:48.06 0 ID:

日産で息切れして秋のどさ回りは八千とか一万のホールが精一杯

これは明らかに失速

They ran out of breath at the Nissan Stadium and will only be able to fill 8,000-10,000 capacity halls in their autumn tour.
This is definitely what you call a loss of traction.

http://blog-imgs-47-origin.fc2.com/m/o/m/momoclonews/f38736e8.jpg

75：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:32:17.60 0 ID:

2011.12　 SSA　　　　　1万

2012.4　　横アリ2日　　2.6万

2012.8　　西武　　　　　3.7万

2012.12　 SSA2日 3.4万

2013.4　　西武2日　　　6万

2013.8　　日産　　　　　6万

失速しているように見えない

2011.12　 SSA　　　　　 10K
2012.4　　Yokohama Arena 2days　　26K
2012.8　　Seibu　　　　　 37K
2012.12　 SSA 2days 34K
2013.4　　Seibu 2days　　　 60K
2013.8　　Nissan　　　　　 60K

Deosn't look like they're slowing down to me.

79：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:33:49.82 0 ID:: >>75

実は勢い増してるんだな
They're actually gaining momentum

81：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:34:23.59 0 ID:

衣装パクリから本格的にミソが着いた

They genuinely started failing since their ripped off costume fracas (Related post HERE)

http://v9cxxfsq.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/388c34b1.jpg

84：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:36:54.90 0 ID:

創価でないことが発覚した

これも失速

And it's been found out that they're not from Soka Gakkai.
This is also a reason for their slowdown.

88：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:39:30.33 0 ID:: >>84

何だそれｗ
Da heck is that? LOL

85：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:37:24.35 0 ID:

ライブに活路を見出したももクロ人気は根強い

MomoClo has deep roots since they seem to have found their path through concerts

http://musicreport.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/ss_wp_hdr02_th.jpg

86：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:38:13.02 0 ID:

ももクロ2013

・キモイ変な痛い衣装をパクる。待望の2ndアルバムもこれじゃない感満載で盛大に滑る

・秋桜枯れ果てる。ピンクジャイアンのあまりの酷さにさだまさしも苦笑い

・日半スタジアムで美しい芝を観賞してサカヲタのご機嫌を伺う

・全力で韓国の言い分を聞こうとして右翼のファンを困惑させる

MomoClo in 2013

- They rip off this gross, weird, and pathetic costume. Their 2nd album feels off in all aspects and fails.
- Their Cosmos wilts. Because of Pink Gian, even Masashi Sada snickers. (Related post HERE)
- They stare at the beautiful grass at Nissan Stadium and grab the hearts of soccer fans.
- They do their best to try and listen to what Korea has to say and troubles their rightist fans.

90：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:40:31.28 0 ID:

失速を盛り返そうとしてテレビやフェスにごり押し

逆に失速が明らかに

They're being forced into TV and various festivals on order to try and make up for this slowdown, but it actually makes it even more evident

92：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:41:03.39 0 ID:

韓国の言い分も聞こうよ！の時はネトウヨファンが混乱しててﾜﾛﾀ

I LOL'd at how their rightist fans got confused when they said "Let's hear Korea's excuses too!"

http://blog-imgs-57.fc2.com/g/e/i/geitsuboo/20130820193520.jpg

100：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:44:00.68 0 ID:

失速じゃないだろ　単にキャンペーン期間が終了しただけ

No, they haven't lost steam. It's just that their campaigning period is over.

109：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:48:18.64 0 ID:

新曲プロモでまた出てくるよ

今は誰も知らんようなくっそ田舎をツアー中

ちなみにどこも本確あるのに売り切れ

早くアンチさんの言うように失速しねーかな

They'll come out again to promote their new song.
Right now, they're just touring these remote areas that no one really knows.
And they sell places out everywhere they go.
Yeah, right. I sure wish they lose traction just like what the haters are saying. Uh-huh.

113：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:49:51.22 0 ID:

和歌山や四国なんかのホールツアーやっているのは失速したから

The reason they're only doing hall tours in Wakayama and Shikoku is precisely because they've lost steam

114：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:51:33.75 P ID:: >>113

違うね。芸能人がめったに来ない地域を重点的にやっている。

田中角栄の選挙戦術みたいなもんだよ。
Wrong. They're focusing their activities in these areas that other celebrities rarely visit.
It's similar to Kakuei Tanaka's electoral campaign strategy.

119：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:53:47.18 0 ID:

ドサ周りだろｗ

They're just touring other regions now

126：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:56:47.73 0 ID:

まさか大分が人気スポットになるとはな・・・

大分でも2万は入る箱じゃないとチケット入手は無理

Who would've thought that even Oita would become a popular spot.
Well, you can't gather 20,000 people in Oita, but still, it's impossible to get a ticket to their shows over there.

133：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 15:58:39.03 0 ID:

みんな詳しいな

You guys are well-informed, huh

141：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 16:00:58.35 0 ID:

夏だって本当に勢いがあればプロ野球押し退けてドームツアーやれたはず

If they really had momentum, then they could've shoved aside pro baseball and have a dome tour during summer.

169：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 16:16:45.34 0 ID:

サラバぐらいから曲がつまらなくなった

Their songs started to become boring from "Saraba"

174：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 16:19:36.63 0 ID:

AKBは今年5曲シングル出してる

ももクロは今年１曲しかシングル出してない

この差が出ただけ

年間1曲じゃそりゃ忘れさられる

AKB had 5 singles this year.
MomoClo only had 1 song this year.

With this difference, of course people will forget you if you had only 1 song.

176：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 16:20:45.54 0 ID:

5曲も出したの？クッキーしか思い出せない

They already have 5 songs? Cookie's the only one I remember.

183：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 16:24:29.17 0 ID:: >>176

今まだ3曲だけど今年あと2曲出す
They have 3 songs to this point, and will still come out with 2 more by the end of the year

179：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 16:21:08.12 0 ID:

Mステとか出てたけどあんな衣装でファン増えるわけないだろ

There's no way they'd increase the number of their fans with those costumes when they were on Music Station

186：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 16:27:34.10 0 ID:

モノノフの選民思想ってこういうことだろ？

The Mononofu's sense of elitism refers to this, right?

(Caption: Why isn't MomoClo on the cover!)

http://www.colorful-hp.net/files/images/2013/04/BH3Oo9_CEAAsBmn.jpg

(Caption: They're already superhumans for having that much stamina to dance like that.
AKB already belongs to a lower class than them.
MomoClo also has more core fans thanks to their overwhelming performance.)

http://www.colorful-hp.net/files/images/2013/04/BHKhlGPCIAE3dit.jpg

そりゃオタは嫌われるわ

オタ内でも色で固まってたりして内紛は酷そうだし

If so, then I'm not surprised the other otas would hate them.
Even the otakus of each member are fighting among themselves, and it's getting ugly.

191：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 16:30:18.72 0 ID:

モノノフって阪神ファンに近いウザさがある

ももクロ好きなのはお前らの勝手だし俺だってももクロの存在知らないわけじゃないんだから

Mononofus are similarly annoying as those Hanshin Tigers fans.
Yeah, it's your choice that you like MomoClo, and it's not like I don't know them.

192：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 16:31:10.93 0 ID:

いつからこんな客層になったんだろう

When did their fanbase become like this?

http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org4547133.jpg

194：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 16:33:51.90 0 ID:: >>192

これ去年な

今はもっとすごい
This one is last year. It's more amazing now.

195：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 16:34:40.82 0 ID:

LVに行くたびに客層が若くなる

Their fanbase keeps getting younger and younger every time I go to their live performances

197：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 16:39:36.47 0 ID:

紅白で成り上がりストーリーが完結したから

もう追いかける理由がないのに業界へ媚売ってる糞事務所

そりゃ追いかける理由無くしたあげくもうこっち向いてなかったらファンは離れていきますわ

Their success story was completed at the Kouhaku, and they don't have anything to chase after anymore. But their damned agency still sucks up to the showbiz world. If they don't even look back this way after they're done chasing their dream then I won't be surprised if they fall out of favor with some of their fans.

216：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 17:03:19.59 0 ID:: >>197

離れるまで言わないが落ち着くまで距離を置き始めているファンは多い

その間に他に流れていくのかもしれないが
I won't say as far as falling out, but I think there are a lot of fans who are distancing themselves from the group until things settle down. But of course there's a possibility that those fans will move on to other things.

222：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 17:13:11.69 0 ID:

失速？

次のシングルが初動次第

8万越えれば右肩上がり

越えなければ失速って言っても間違いないな

Losing traction?
It will depend on the initial sales of their next single. If it exceeds 80,000 then they're succeeding. If it doesn't, then you can say the've lost steam.

http://campusup.ddo.jp/uploader/src/cmp21019.png

224：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 17:15:50.18 0 ID:: >>222

8万じゃ停滞だよ

紅白までの勢いが凄すぎたんだから勢いが落ちるのはしょうがない
But 80,000 means they've stagnated. Their momentum was so strong up until the Kouhaku, so there's no helping it even if they've slowed down a bit.

227：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 17:18:46.16 0 ID:

芝生をフィーチャーした日産ライブってなんだったの？

いやマジでなんだったの？正直あの勢いだったら普通に席用意してもいいしさ・・・

What was their featuring of the grass in their Nissan concert all about?
No seriously, what was it about? If they had that much momentum then they could've at least prepared seats.

http://journey1004.c.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_d83/journey1004/E383A2E383A2E382AFE383AD.jpg?c=a501

228：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 17:21:41.86 0 ID:: >>227

動画のほうがわかりやすいよ
It's easier to understand on video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acOLjVGzDRU

231：名無し募集中。。。 2013/10/02(水) 17:25:07.10 0 ID:

最近のアイドルの売り方で惑わされがちだけど

握手なしならシングルは伸びにくいだろうな

むしろ落ちるかも

純粋に曲の良し悪しが問われる

It's easy to get misled by how idols are promoting themselves these days, but it'll be hard to increase their sales if they don't have any handshake passes. It might even drop down.
It'll purely come down to how good or bad the song is.

234：名無し募集中 2013/10/02(水) 17:29:59.67 0 ID: