田村正和、松方弘樹、北大路欣也、加山雄三、List of 2nd-generation talents who succeeded:
Masakazu Tamura, Hiroki Matsukata, Kin'ya Kitaōji, Yuzo Kayama,
Hiroshi Sekiguchi, Masaaki Sakai, Kiichi Nakai, Koichi Sato, Kenji Furuya,
Hikaru Utada, Takako Matsu, Anne, Mari Sekine
- 親があんまり売れてない場合は関係ないIt's alright even if the parents of that person isn't that popular
- 松たかこ佐藤こういち関根の親は売れてるんじゃねTakako Matsu's
And Sekine's parents are popular, right?
- まず松本幸四郎の子供を松たか子しか載せない時点で矛盾が・・・But there's already some contradiction there since Takako Matsu is the only one listed as Koshiro Matsumoto's child
- 宇多田の親って十分売れてたけどね宇多田の方がそれをもっと全然上回る超確変しただけでUtada's mom was popular in her own right though.
It's just that Utada overtook her due to her sudden evolution.
- 第一段階で視聴者の嫉妬が渦巻くなかで上手くいくんだから才能って遺伝するんだなThey probably inherited the talent of their parents due to their success amidst all the jealousy of the viewers
- いまは俳優女優よりもミュージシャンになりたがる2世3世が多い印象It seems to me that there are more 2nd and 3rd generation people who want to become musicians more so than being actors/actress
- ハマタも息子も音楽界隈では割といい位置にきてるぞHamada's son is also in a pretty good position within the music industry
- 二世の打率が高いのは当たり前It's just natural that 2nd generation talents have a pretty high success rate
- 笑いは最も遺伝しにくい要素らしいから2世お笑い芸人は中々大成しないかもI heard that comedic sense is one of the toughest things to inherit, so 2nd generation comedians probably won't make big strides
- 二世ってのは大企業の御曹司と同じだからなコネの中枢なんだから売れて当たり前逆にそれでも売れない奴は本当にセンスが無い奴2nd generations are the same as the successors to large companies.
They're the core of all connections within the industry so there's no way they won't become popular.
And those who don't even get to become popular amidst all those conditions are the ones who truly have no sense.
- 2世のお笑い芸人自体あんまいないようなBut I don't think there are even that many 2nd generation comedians
- イマルが失敗例の代表みたいな事になってるよねIt seems that IMALU is being considered as the example of the failures, right?
- イマルは売れてる方だろちょくちょくテレビに出るしモデルや音楽でやってんだろ？たけしや石橋の娘だろBut I think IMALU can be considered popular.
She's seen every once in a while on TV, she does modeling works and music too, right?
We must be talking about Takeshi and Ishibashi's daughters.
- イマルは今でもちょこちょこテレビ出てるし成功してるほうだろIMALU's still on TV every now and then, you can consider her successful
- イマルは親父がかなり偉大な上に母親も大女優ってことを考えるとやっぱ残念だよBut when you consider how huge IMALU's dad is, and how great of an actress her mother is then she's a bit of a disappointment
(* Sanma Akashiya and Shinobu Otake)
- 高嶋兄弟は活躍してるなThe Takashima brothers are doing well, I believe
- あーコネで出してもらってるんだねっていう視聴者の先入観を払拭してこそ2世が大成した時イマルはその点まだまだYou can only say that these 2nd generation talents have made it big once the get out of the shadows of their parents and make the viewers forget that sort of bias. That can't be said about IMALU yet.
- 若い子はあんまり知らないかもだが父が一番有名なのは田村正和The younger ones probably don't know this, but Masakazu Tamura has the most popular father there
- ジャンルが違うから何ともさんまは芸人しのぶは女優いまるは音楽モデルタレントBut their genres are totally different so you really can't tell.
Sanma is a comedian, Shinobu is an actress, while IMALU is in music, a model, and a talent.
- 大森なおの親にはビックリした知らなかったI got surprised when I knew about Nao Omori's father.
I didn't know that.
(* Akaji Maro)
- 松田聖子は結婚前絶対自分の子供は芸能界入れたくないと言ってた枕させたくなかったんだろうSeiko Matsuda said prior to her marriage that she didn't want her own child entering showbiz.
She probably didn't want her child doing sexual favors.
- 宇多田しかもこの世で一番売れた女性歌手じゃんUtada. And she's actually the most successful female singer in the world.
- 長淵→失敗矢沢→失敗桑田→失敗Nagabuchi → fail
Yazawa → fail
Kuwata → fail
- いまるは売れなくても将来安泰だから遊びでやってるんだろうIMALU doesn't need to be popular, her future will be secure so she's just playing around
- 森山直太朗Naotaro Moriyama
- 若手だと杏と関根麻里か杏はベムで完全に七光り色消えたよねAmong the younger ones, it's Anne and Mari Sekine.
Anne completely got out of her father's shadow in Bem.
- 井上陽水失敗Yosui Inoue → fail
- ミスターマリック失敗Mr. MARIC → fail
- さだまさし失敗尾崎豊失敗Masashi Sada → fail
Yutaka Ozaki → fail
- IMARUのお兄さんは何してるの？What is IMALU's big brother doing?
- 五木ひろしの弟とかミック・ジャガーの弟とかむしろ偉大な兄弟を持つ方が売れないイメージThis is true for Hiroshi Itsuki and Mick Jagger's brothers, but I think those who have big-name siblings are less likely to become popular
- やっぱ物販系の歌手は駄目だないくらファンでもそのガキの歌まで金出して聴くわけないもんなIt just goes to show that these mainstream, commercial singers are no good.
Even if you're a fan, you won't shell out money to listen to that person's child sing.
- うむ二世は役者にするのが一番固いRight. These 2nd generation talents will be making the right choice if they become actors.
- 意外な二世っていないの実はあの子供だった！みたいなAren't there any "surprising" 2nd-gen talents? The ones that will surprise you once you learn that he or she is actually the child of a particular person?
- 桑田の息子の顔見てわらたI LOL'd after seeing the face of Kuwata's son
- 親がスーパースターだとハードル上がる長島さんまたけし加山雄三ジョンレノンThe bar is set so high if you're parent is a superstar.
Nagashima, Sanma, Takeshi, Yuzo Kayama, John Lennon.
- 山口百恵の息子は将来性ありますか？Does Momoe Yamaguchi's sons have any potential?
- 坂本龍一の娘Ryuichi Sakamoto's daughter
- モックンの娘は芸能界入りした？Has Mokkun's daughter joined showbiz?
- 岡田結実の親父はますおか岡田Yui Okada's dad is Okada of the duo "MasudaOkada"
- 森進一と昌子の息子ってそんなに凄いの？Is Shinichi and Masako Mori's son really that amazing?
- スポーツの世界は実力世界だから少ないな長嶋や野村は完全にコネと話題作りだしThe sports world is all about talent and ability so there aren't that many 2nd generation stars.
Nagashima and Nomura's sons were just totally due to connection, and were there only for the media attention.
- スポーツは室伏親子と三宅親子と若貴がいるなFor sports, there's the Murofushi family, the Miyake family, and Wakataka
- 朝原と奥野の子供に期待I'll be looking forward to Asahara and Okuno's children
- 宇多田はJPOPに新しい流れを作っちゃったくらいだからなぁUtada was so huge, she even created her own J-POP wave
- ジャンボ尾崎の息子も結局駄目だったなEven Jumbo Ozaki's son was no good
- 落語家の二世はもれなく糞2nd-gen rakugo artists are all shi+e without exception
- 政治家は２世だらけWhile in politics, it's all about the 2nd generation politicians
- 政治家は芸能人以上に能力関係ないもんなAbilities don't count at all in politics, more than in showbiz
- 歌手は消費者が金出してもいいと思わせる実力が必要だから二世ならデビュー時は有利だけど才能無いと結局消える役者とかは金出してないTVドラマとかで脇役で二世が出てても誰も気にしないし数字にも影響しないからよほど素行悪くて業界内で嫌われたりしない限り生き残るSingers need the ability to make the consumers want to spend their moneys on them.
Sure, they'd have the upper hand at first, but they'll disappear if they don't have any talent.
2nd generation actors on the other hand still get to be in dramas where the consumers don't even need to spend their money. Even if they're in there for supporting roles, no one will really care, and it won't really have that much of an impact on the ratings, so they'll survive as long as they aren't hated within the industry.
- どいつもビッグになったやつは親が大したことないな佐藤中井なんかもデビューしらないけど何年もやったのが良かったんだろうな壱成も悪さしなきゃ良いとこにいられたかもなOn the other hand, the ones who made it big actually have no-good parents.
No one really knows when Sato and Nakai made their debuts, but it was good for them that they kept at it for a number of years. Even Issei would have probably been in a good position if he didn't do anything stupid.
- 身内のコネをフルに使ったのって石原家だろThe Ishihara family made the biggest use of their internal connections
- 良純がたまに見せる異様な神経質さが怖いっつうか最近良純見ないなI'm scared of Yoshizumi's extremely sensitive side which he shows every once in a while.
I actually haven't seen Yoshizumi that much these days.
- 良純ならお前の横で寝てるよYoshizumi's probably sleeping beside you
- 良純なら俺の目の前で天気読んでるYoshizumi's predicting the weather in front me
- 石田いっせいは一時までは十分に大成したといえるなYou can say that Issei Ishida was popular until a certain point
- IMALU Live Lounge -Super Bassいまるも歌唱力は悪くないけど芸能界屈指の音痴なさんまの娘というイメージで損しているなIMALU's singing isn't really that bad, but being the daughter of Sanma, the biggest tone-deaf in the showbiz industry is hurting her image.
- さんまスタイルいいのにイーマールはなんであんなにスタイル悪いんだろSanma's got a good figure, but I wonder why IMALU didn't get that from him
- イマル曰くさんまとしのぶの身体の短所ばかり受け継いだAccording to IMALU, she inherited all the faults in Sanma's and Shinobu's bodies
- 親の名前出してもまったくダメな赤井英和の娘みたいなのもいるし若干有利なくらいで本人次第じゃないの？とんねるず石橋の娘なんて競演NGみたいだしさBut there are still those talents like Hidekazu Akai's daughter who still can't cut it even if she uses her dad's name. I think it just puts them at a very slight advantage at first, but it all boils down to themselves. Even the daughter of Tunnel's Ishibashi isn't allowed to work with him.
- 歌舞伎とか世襲制だもんなそりゃどんどんしょぼくなるよKabuki on the other hand is hereditary.
Of course, the quality there would just deteriorate over time.
- 意外と2世って極端に擦れた感じのいないよね金はあるから大らかに育てられたからかSurprisingly, these 2nd generation stars don't look too worn out.
They all had money growing up so they were all raised well.
- さんまって娘の芸能界入りに反対してたろ？その後も人に迷惑かけてないかずっと気にしてた親としてちゃんとしてるよBut Sanma was against his daughter joining the industry, right?
Then he was always concerned whether or not she was causing trouble to other people.
He's a good parent.
- タレントではないけど小泉孝太郎が長生きしてるのがびっくり演技下手だけどHe isn't a talent, but I'm surprised that Kotaro Koizumi has had this much staying power.
He's a bad actor after all.
- 関根麻里はどうなんだろう 成功してるとは思えないがI wonder about Mari Sekine, I don't think you can call her successful
- 十分過ぎるほど成功してるだろ関根麻里Nah, Mari Sekine can definitely be called a success
- 親父のコネで楽して二世俳優にもなれたのに自力で売れたドラゴンアッシュすげーなI'm amazed at Dragon Ash who got popular by himself even if he could've enjoyed the good life with the help of connections from his dad
- 松田優作の息子も二人とも結構成功してるねEven both of Yusaku Matsuda's sons have succeeded
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